21 March 2014, 20:27 | #1 |
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Can Amiga Explorer work without a WB disk?
Hi, I have Amiga Explorer, my basic A500, a working null modem cable... but no Workbench 1.3 disk. I do have just one bootable floppy disk, which gets me to Workbench, but doesn't include the Shell or CLI program. This means I'm unable to enter the commands that Amiga Explorer requires.
I'm in a time crunch to do with leaving the country, and the WB disks I ordered on eBay have been delayed by the seller. Q: Is there any other way to get Amiga Explorer working? My end goal is to convert some Amiga floppy disks to ADF files for use with an emulator. |
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i have winuae with kick 1.3 here. when you see the AmigaDOS window " copyright ..." press CTRL + D - it stops here the booting and you get the shell/cli prompt.
you can enter now "loadwb" to start workbench and the cli will still be open, until you enter "endcli" i hope this works on real amiga too (thinking of a winuae feature), just test it . |
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Thanks. That does work, but the problem is Amiga Explorer needs me to type the following, including the word 'Type':
Type SER: to RAM:Setup But when I enter that I get an error: 1> Type SER: to RAM:Setup Unknown command Type 1> Type Unknown command Type I think my disk doesn't have the full CLI commands in it, so it doesn't understand "Type". Any ideas anyone? Thanks! |
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never used amiga-explorer - cannot say how this works. do you have any other amiga disks, install disks of application - those may have some of the commands you need. i think devs:serial.device is also one of the missing things. maybe a devs:mountlist with entry for SER: if you find those, insert them and try in the cli: df0:c/type or df0:c/copy if they exists copy them to ram-disk and later on your bootdisk. something like: Code:
df0:c/copy df0:c/copy ram:copy Code:
ram:copy ram:copy df0:c/copy thats all not funny, but otherwise i've no idea, atm. Last edited by emufan; 21 March 2014 at 21:43. |
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Thanks. I only have one disk.
Where and how can I ensure the required commands aren't hiding somewhere on the disk? I'm not sure how to search for them. |
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c:type df0:c/type df0:type other usefull commands, if available: dir list edit: a bit OT but related, did you saw the usb-floppy emulator? no more disk problems, never ever Last edited by emufan; 21 March 2014 at 22:31. |
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Really appreciate your help. I'll try the commands.
The emulator won't help as I need to get some files off old floppies. Any other people's ideas also welcomed in the meantime. |
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kind of deja-vu - i hope it wasn't you, i've told about adfread. old pc with two 3.5" disk-drives on same cable. makes successfully copies of standard amiga filesystem disks. |
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21 March 2014, 23:17 | #9 |
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Sadly I get:
"Unknown command dir" "Unknown command df0:type" "Unknown command c:type" etc. I don't have an old PC, only laptops. Any other ideas how to get Amiga Explorer working so I can convert an Amiga floppy to an ADF? |
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It does that in a clever way, it gets the raw input from the SER: device and converts it to "text" using Type. That "text" is just executable code It obviously needs Type to exist as it uses that to get the input from the serial device, and I suspect that without the Serial prefs the SER: device won't even be configured properly and without a SER: mounted that it won't even be enabled at all! I'm no WB guru, so I might be missing some awesome-ultra-1337 way of doing that just with a paperclip and a rubber band, but for now it seems that Starglider 2 needs to get his hand on a WB1.3 floppy. Looks like he'll either need to source one locally or go with a floppy emulator JUST to get a working WB1.3. Usually bootable floppies include the BARE essential to make it run (that's why there's on Type on there) to save precious kBytes. As Emufan said, adfread might be an option, but it requires a slightly old PC which supports two floppy drives. |
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Thanks guys. I now have the required WB disk. :-)
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Inquiring minds want to know... what was on that disk?
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Workbench 1.3 with the required CLI command "Type" on it.
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LOL, right i was curious about the data you were tyring to recover. Don'f feel obligated to answer, i was just being nosey.
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Ha! Sorry. I thought your question was a bit odd. That explains it! I had an old Amiga hard disk backup taken with ABackup, and I wanted to convert those 50 disks to ADFs, to restore onto a virtual HD in UAE :-)
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wow that is ambitious! god speed in your quest!
not long ago i had to buy an iomega parallel port 100 mb zip drive, and an ancient win95 laptop to recover some old photography... media obsolescence will always get ya! |
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Thanks!
There will always be emulators :-) Amiga Forever... |
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