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And check if you have those polybios files in LIBS:Hollywood/, just in case. If you have them there, are they same version or some older ones? |
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- polybios.hwp and polibios.exp are also used by other applications, check that there are no older versions in LIBS/Hollywood To avoid duplication, it is preferable to have all Hollywood bookstores in LIBS/Hollywood Quote:
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in deficons pdf is set within ascii tree. see screenshot 1
if i drag pdf out of that tree, working pdf files don't have an icon anymore. see screenshot 2. the weird ones keep their text file icon although their fileending is .pdf, like the working ones. and still crash+guru with these weird .pdfs 3 and 4, no matter where pdf deficon is located. Last edited by honx; 25 February 2020 at 15:41. |
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Don't use the editor because I don't think it works well, manually edit the def_icons. The icons that maintain the association have a "real" icon so the association does not work on these icons. To verify the exact association delete the icons and then tell the system to associate those files "show all files". I repeat if you send me some example files I can understand the problem well |
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and all file names end with .pdf, so no wrong filename. all the same filenames except number. AmigaFever1.pdf - working AmigaFever2.pdf - working AmigaFever3.pdf - NOT working (the one i zoned) AmigaFever4.pdf - NOT working which files should i send? all these 4 .pdf files (2 working, 2 not working)? Quote:
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so these .pdf files are only visible, if "show all files" is checked. otherwise this folder would be blank, as there is no .info file. more examples of that .pdf which i already zoned? should i send all 4 amigafever .pdf files (2 working, 2 not working)? |
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Example, if an image.JPG rename the image.MP3 the Workbench will open the file with the Viewer associated with JPG, Windows instead will open this file with an MP3 player, this was a simple technique on PCs to slice them Amiga Associations Files, see this very old video of mine: [ Show youtube player ] Quote:
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i have official mui 3.8, all "newer versions (3.9)" are not official, not from the same developer, and i have read that 3.9 is very buggy and very performance consuming, this is why i have installed the latest stable release 3.8 of mui. and mui is only for displaying/rendering windows with some special features from mui on workbench. mui has nothing to do with opening .pdf files. Last edited by honx; 30 August 2019 at 21:22. |
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Okay, I'm waiting for your file...
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that .pdf file which i zoned is already one of these 4 files, AmigaFever3.pdf which is not working here. i just renamed it. should i upload all 4 AmigaFever .pdf files (AmigaFever1-4, 2 working and 2 not working ones)? this makes ~100mb...
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You can't. The prefs program is to set up how to detect the fileformat. Those informations aren't available to .info files.
I may be able to help with the ascii problem at least. just download the attachment and put the deficons.prefs into prefs/env-archive. The default file had more than one file wrongly recognized so i edited it to fix those. It recognizes all files os4 can (there are some formats more than in 3.x) , and i added a fileformat or two. There shouldn't be any problems but make a backup of your original file first. just to be on the safe side. Quote:
The 'real' icons are only used when the fileformat is found by deficons. In the icon file you can only set what programm to use. But if the file is wrongly recognized in the first place the default tool is meaningless. If deficon sees an ascii file the def_pdf will never be used. I can tell how the deficons prefs works but this is not the thread for that EDIT: I get an error too on reading your pdf. (guru 8000 0027) Last edited by tero; 31 August 2019 at 06:14. |
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DH0:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/ Check that the def_pdf.info icon is of the project type, and as a tool it is "RNOPDF" and path |
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The whole deficons part in this thread is only because the pdf is shown as ascii. just to explain: Setting the def_icon to project and set a tool also has nothing to do with deficons. Those are 2 different things. (the problem with the pdf is problem on its own and has nothing to do with the icon.) Project + tool is to set a programm to use for a file. It is saved in a files .info. you can't even configure those in deficons. (But it offers a way to open iconinformation to make things easier.) Deficons is only used when no .info for a file exists. And only to deliver a default icon. To have a good setup in your workbench both (deficons + the def_ files) have to be configured correctly and separatly) Last edited by tero; 31 August 2019 at 09:18. |
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Not completely true, in AmigaOS 3.9 you can do both, you can let Deficons only look at extension and/or also the file headers. |
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True, not only can deficons do that iirc it really does for some files.
btw those 'internal codes' is deficons. |
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This only happens if there is a real icon or if a file has an extension, a file without an icon and without an extension will be examined internally, see also Dopus4
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but there are some entries in your deficons.prefs i can't doubleclick to change. for example: tif, if i doubleclick it to assign it to multiview or any other picture viewer, i get an error: Quote:
but no worry, .tif never worked on my system. now with your deficons.prefs at least it has an icon (tiff) which it didn't have before. i guess, it will take some weeks checking if everything still works as it used to (opens how it's supposed to be opened), i'll have to check wordworth, turbocalc, amigawriter, etc. - not gonna do this today... at least i'm not alone with this! Last edited by honx; 31 August 2019 at 09:40. |
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Edit the def_tiff file by hand, done this you'll also have it modified in DefIcons.Prefs
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