Protracker (syncing two Amigas)

StevenMarshall · 30 December 2011, 18:14

I remember long time ago, friend and I used a cable (serial?) to sync two Amigas and play Protracker on both units, synced together.

Does anyone know / remember the exact procedure?

I tried looking for sync option in Protracker, but can't find it. (Or maybe it was the Octamed.)

Any feedback appreciated!!!

BuZz · 30 December 2011, 19:27

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StevenMarshall · 30 December 2011, 23:57

Oh yes!!!!

Thank you, dude!

EDIT:

I used a translator for above link and when translated from Spanish the text was like:

Code:

To use it you need:

- 2 girlfriends: in my case I used an a1200 (by clearing the 060)...

I'll see what i can do about it!

Amiga1992 · 31 December 2011, 00:04

Wow I didn't know that. Fucking awesome.
There's another method, if you have a simple MIDI device that can send a START signal, and yo uconnect this to two Amigas through MIDI, they will allstart at the same time. no MIDI clock sync though and that is annoying.

These protacker versions are really cool if only for the pitch bending feature!!!!

gary · 01 January 2012, 10:49

I knew of people that hacked 2 mice so that the left button on one would also trigger the left button on the other. They started songs on 2 Amigas running protracker and merged the audio output.

kasio · 04 January 2012, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

There's another method, if you have a simple MIDI device that can send a START signal, and yo uconnect this to two Amigas through MIDI, they will allstart at the same time. no MIDI clock sync though and that is annoying.

Interesting. Can you elaborate on this?

Do you need a special version of PT or is it possible to make this work with, say, PT3.15?

Amiga1992 · 05 January 2012, 18:32

If PT 3.15 supports MIDI IN, then it will work. I use PT 2.3d

I have, for example, an Akai MPD26 that can send MIDI START to the mchines through MIDI. Tey will start when I click the transport button. Also stopping.

Other commands you can send are instrument change and note, but they are way too limited for my liking. I wonder if anyone will ever hack PT2.3D to allow better MIDI control of it!

kasio · 05 January 2012, 19:27

Thanks. From what I have found, though, MIDI was dropped from version 3.0.

Too bad, as I am so accustomed to the workflow of 3.15.

I have an Akai S3000XL which I suppose can send MIDI START. But it is just too heavy to carry around when doing gigs.

Amiga1992 · 05 January 2012, 22:02

I DID try MIDI with version 3 and I think it works just as it does in 2.3d. Did you try it? I can try it for you at some point if I find a little time.
For the start problem, you probably can get some cheap machine that does MIDI Transport and is also portablke enough. You could use a Gameboy with Arduinoboy or a Gamepark GP2X using LGPT. Maybe also one of those portable Yamaha FM syntehsizers.

kasio · 06 January 2012, 09:26

There is a version history included in the readme of Protracker 3.15 on Aminet, which says "Midi has been kicked out (temporarily?)" from version 3.00 (Beta).

http://aminet.net/package/mus/edit/ProTracker-3.15

But I did not try, so hopefully you are right. If you have the time and setup ready, I'd be happy if you can confirm if it works.

Amiga1992 · 06 January 2012, 14:23

I also gotta check which version exactly I have. I will do so when I find a little free time

kasio · 06 January 2012, 16:59

Appreciated. Take your time, it's no hurry..

Amiga1992 · 06 January 2012, 17:28

Well I am waiting for an RGB cable to arrive on the post, when that is here, I surely have no problem in testing it out.

Amiga1992 · 19 January 2012, 00:29

You are right, MIDI has been taken off on the 3.X version. What a pity.
Sorry about that :/

kasio · 19 January 2012, 08:38

Too bad. But, thanks for testing.

Retrofan · 19 January 2012, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenMarshall

EDIT:

I used a translator for above link and when translated from Spanish the text was like:

Code:

To use it you need:
 
- 2 girlfriends: in my case I used an a1200 (by clearing the 060)...

No, really the meaning of Amiga in Spanish is friend, but referred to a girl/woman. Anyway, when I first started playing with Amigas here I had some problems trying to explain what it was...

oundfire99 · 02 July 2022, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Wow I didn't know that. Fucking awesome.
There's another method, if you have a simple MIDI device that can send a START signal, and yo uconnect this to two Amigas through MIDI, they will allstart at the same time. no MIDI clock sync though and that is annoying.

These protacker versions are really cool if only for the pitch bending feature!!!!

Can this work with a Roland a-880? Thanks

Jope · 08 July 2022, 18:00

The A-880 is quite a versatile MIDI patch bay. You would configure one of your inputs to send to two outs, connect your amigas to those outs and then send your start/stop commands to that particular input.

30 December 2011, 18:14	#1
StevenMarshall Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: EU Posts: 53	Protracker (syncing two Amigas) I remember long time ago, friend and I used a cable (serial?) to sync two Amigas and play Protracker on both units, synced together. Does anyone know / remember the exact procedure? I tried looking for sync option in Protracker, but can't find it. (Or maybe it was the Octamed.) Any feedback appreciated!!!

30 December 2011, 23:57	#3
StevenMarshall Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: EU Posts: 53	Oh yes!!!! Thank you, dude! EDIT: I used a translator for above link and when translated from Spanish the text was like: Code: To use it you need: - 2 girlfriends: in my case I used an a1200 (by clearing the 060)... I'll see what i can do about it! Last edited by StevenMarshall; 31 December 2011 at 00:07.

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30 December 2011, 19:27	#2
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	http://a1200.wordpress.com/2010/10/2...por-nullmodem/

31 December 2011, 00:04	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Wow I didn't know that. Fucking awesome. There's another method, if you have a simple MIDI device that can send a START signal, and yo uconnect this to two Amigas through MIDI, they will allstart at the same time. no MIDI clock sync though and that is annoying. These protacker versions are really cool if only for the pitch bending feature!!!!

01 January 2012, 10:49	#5
gary Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Perth, Western Australia Age: 50 Posts: 283	I knew of people that hacked 2 mice so that the left button on one would also trigger the left button on the other. They started songs on 2 Amigas running protracker and merged the audio output.

05 January 2012, 18:32	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	If PT 3.15 supports MIDI IN, then it will work. I use PT 2.3d I have, for example, an Akai MPD26 that can send MIDI START to the mchines through MIDI. Tey will start when I click the transport button. Also stopping. Other commands you can send are instrument change and note, but they are way too limited for my liking. I wonder if anyone will ever hack PT2.3D to allow better MIDI control of it!

05 January 2012, 19:27	#8
kasio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 40	Thanks. From what I have found, though, MIDI was dropped from version 3.0. Too bad, as I am so accustomed to the workflow of 3.15. I have an Akai S3000XL which I suppose can send MIDI START. But it is just too heavy to carry around when doing gigs.

05 January 2012, 22:02	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I DID try MIDI with version 3 and I think it works just as it does in 2.3d. Did you try it? I can try it for you at some point if I find a little time. For the start problem, you probably can get some cheap machine that does MIDI Transport and is also portablke enough. You could use a Gameboy with Arduinoboy or a Gamepark GP2X using LGPT. Maybe also one of those portable Yamaha FM syntehsizers.

06 January 2012, 09:26	#10
kasio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 40	There is a version history included in the readme of Protracker 3.15 on Aminet, which says "Midi has been kicked out (temporarily?)" from version 3.00 (Beta). http://aminet.net/package/mus/edit/ProTracker-3.15 But I did not try, so hopefully you are right. If you have the time and setup ready, I'd be happy if you can confirm if it works.

06 January 2012, 14:23	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I also gotta check which version exactly I have. I will do so when I find a little free time

06 January 2012, 16:59	#12
kasio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 40	Appreciated. Take your time, it's no hurry..

06 January 2012, 17:28	#13
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well I am waiting for an RGB cable to arrive on the post, when that is here, I surely have no problem in testing it out.

19 January 2012, 00:29	#14
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	You are right, MIDI has been taken off on the 3.X version. What a pity. Sorry about that :/

19 January 2012, 08:38	#15
kasio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 40	Too bad. But, thanks for testing.

08 July 2022, 18:00	#18
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	The A-880 is quite a versatile MIDI patch bay. You would configure one of your inputs to send to two outs, connect your amigas to those outs and then send your start/stop commands to that particular input.

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