Hd installer amiga600

10 October 2006, 00:32

Hi amigalovers,

After experimenting with tracksaver gui and adf conversion from
a pcmcia card i accendentally removed some files from my a600 internal
HD system dir and after reboot the harddisc can't boot anymore.

Where can i find images of Hd install discs or similar (preferably adf),
and instructions how to use them since it's been so long that i installed a HD
on an amiga.

Thnx in advance

thomas · 10 October 2006, 09:21

You cannot make a HDD non-bootable by removing files. A HDD is marked bootable in the partitioning tool. The system will boot from this partition no matter if there are files on it or not.

If you deleted some files, just copy the missing files from the Workbench disk. If you don't know which files are missing, just copy all files from the Workbench disk.

Note that Workbench disks are still under copyright. They cannot be legally copied. If you no longer have your Workbench disks, you have to buy new ones from your favourite Amiga dealer.

If you need a partitioning tool and don't have the Install disk, you can use HDInsttools instead. http://www.aminet.net/package.php?pa...isc/hdinst.lha

10 October 2006, 10:28

Ok Thomas,

Workbench disks are no problem, i have the originals intact.
So if the HD suddenly stopped booting and is still operative (on reboot the hdlight lits but then the insert workbench logo shows onscreen), and
booting can still be done if some system files are removed what could be
the problem then?

thomas · 10 October 2006, 11:41

Probably the partition table has been wiped. If there are no partitions, the computer cannot boot from HDD.

This can happen if you choose "full HDD image" in TSGUI and then try to write an ADF to the disk. There should have been at least two warnings which you have ignored: "image size does not match disk size" and "all data on the disk will be overwritten".

If it was an ADF (i.e. a very small image file) which you wrote to the HDD, then you can probably recover your partitions with a program like RDB-Salv or RDBRecov. But if it was a bigger image file (e.g. a HDF with more than 2MB), then at least the data of the first partition is lost.

Links:
RDB-Salv demo
RDB-Salv full
RDBRecov

11 October 2006, 18:39

Hi Thomas,

Reinstalling the hd went well and i integrated my pcmcia drivers on the hd
startup partition this time.

Some info about Harddiscs for the A600,

What is the maximum size Hd an amiga 600 can adress?
Is there an application that can transfer a floppydisk based game
to run from harddisc?

thnx
paladium

Chain · 11 October 2006, 20:24

maximum hd size depend on ROM version, if you have 37.300 it can probably acess only 40mb drive. 37.350 didnt have any problem with 2gig travelstar here

thomas · 11 October 2006, 22:31

Quote:

Is there an application that can transfer a floppydisk based game
to run from harddisc?

Yes, see http://www.whdload.de/

But you'll need a memory expansion.

_ThEcRoW · 13 October 2006, 03:20

HD capacity it's limited by the file system. If i'm not wrong, there was a patch that allowed to have hd's more larger than the 4gb barrier.
In os 3.9 the filesystem is already patched for more than 4gb.

thomas · 13 October 2006, 09:51

Quote:

HD capacity it's limited by the file system.

No, it's not. The 4GB limit exists due to the interface of the HDD driver (scsi.device in this case). The solution is to use another interface. But this means you need a replacement for *both* the HDD driver *and* the file system. A new file system alone does not change anything.

adewakd · 19 December 2007, 00:28

I have an Amiga A600. I have problems. All of a sudden its not working. It powers up still and my tv is recieving a signal, the floppy drive whirls up but its like the lights are on but no one is at home.

I have no boot up screen which should be purple, the floppy light doesnt come on, and if i put a floppy disk in and power up nothing happens. I have opened up the amiga and found there is a hard drive cradle but no hard drive. Should a hard drive be there for the amiga to work.
Please help. There is no workbench, no purple screen with the blue disk going into the floppy drive. Its alive but with no brain.

Graham Humphrey · 19 December 2007, 00:40

No, you don't need a hard drive for the computer to work. Does the screen display a certain colour when you switch the Amiga on?

adewakd · 19 December 2007, 01:23

no the tv recieves a signal but instead of the screen being purple its just black

10 October 2006, 00:32	#1
paladium Posts: n/a	Hd installer amiga600 Hi amigalovers, After experimenting with tracksaver gui and adf conversion from a pcmcia card i accendentally removed some files from my a600 internal HD system dir and after reboot the harddisc can't boot anymore. Where can i find images of Hd install discs or similar (preferably adf), and instructions how to use them since it's been so long that i installed a HD on an amiga. Thnx in advance

19 December 2007, 00:28	#10
adewakd Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hull England Posts: 26	Mega Help for the love of God!! I have an Amiga A600. I have problems. All of a sudden its not working. It powers up still and my tv is recieving a signal, the floppy drive whirls up but its like the lights are on but no one is at home. I have no boot up screen which should be purple, the floppy light doesnt come on, and if i put a floppy disk in and power up nothing happens. I have opened up the amiga and found there is a hard drive cradle but no hard drive. Should a hard drive be there for the amiga to work. Please help. There is no workbench, no purple screen with the blue disk going into the floppy drive. Its alive but with no brain.

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10 October 2006, 09:21	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,025	You cannot make a HDD non-bootable by removing files. A HDD is marked bootable in the partitioning tool. The system will boot from this partition no matter if there are files on it or not. If you deleted some files, just copy the missing files from the Workbench disk. If you don't know which files are missing, just copy all files from the Workbench disk. Note that Workbench disks are still under copyright. They cannot be legally copied. If you no longer have your Workbench disks, you have to buy new ones from your favourite Amiga dealer. If you need a partitioning tool and don't have the Install disk, you can use HDInsttools instead. http://www.aminet.net/package.php?pa...isc/hdinst.lha

10 October 2006, 10:28	#3
paladium Posts: n/a	Ok Thomas, Workbench disks are no problem, i have the originals intact. So if the HD suddenly stopped booting and is still operative (on reboot the hdlight lits but then the insert workbench logo shows onscreen), and booting can still be done if some system files are removed what could be the problem then?

10 October 2006, 11:41	#4
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,025	Probably the partition table has been wiped. If there are no partitions, the computer cannot boot from HDD. This can happen if you choose "full HDD image" in TSGUI and then try to write an ADF to the disk. There should have been at least two warnings which you have ignored: "image size does not match disk size" and "all data on the disk will be overwritten". If it was an ADF (i.e. a very small image file) which you wrote to the HDD, then you can probably recover your partitions with a program like RDB-Salv or RDBRecov. But if it was a bigger image file (e.g. a HDF with more than 2MB), then at least the data of the first partition is lost. Links: RDB-Salv demo RDB-Salv full RDBRecov

11 October 2006, 18:39	#5
paladium Posts: n/a	Hi Thomas, Reinstalling the hd went well and i integrated my pcmcia drivers on the hd startup partition this time. Some info about Harddiscs for the A600, What is the maximum size Hd an amiga 600 can adress? Is there an application that can transfer a floppydisk based game to run from harddisc? thnx paladium

11 October 2006, 20:24	#6
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	maximum hd size depend on ROM version, if you have 37.300 it can probably acess only 40mb drive. 37.350 didnt have any problem with 2gig travelstar here

13 October 2006, 03:20	#8
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	HD capacity it's limited by the file system. If i'm not wrong, there was a patch that allowed to have hd's more larger than the 4gb barrier. In os 3.9 the filesystem is already patched for more than 4gb.

19 December 2007, 00:40	#11
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	No, you don't need a hard drive for the computer to work. Does the screen display a certain colour when you switch the Amiga on?

19 December 2007, 01:23	#12
adewakd Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hull England Posts: 26	no the tv recieves a signal but instead of the screen being purple its just black

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