Did you notice Individual Computers Indivision MK3 preorder up?

aeberbach · 01 July 2020, 14:04

Interesting move for more control via keyboard, less reliance on software.

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/...A1200%2FA4000T

JoeJoe · 01 July 2020, 14:32

hmmm....The new D520 is my favorite!

Lord Aga · 01 July 2020, 14:53

Isn't Lisa already the hottest running chip in A1200? I'm really reluctant to clip anything over it. However, that same design has been around for a while, and there are no reports of combustion. So I dunno

Predseda · 01 July 2020, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

Isn't Lisa already the hottest running chip in A1200? I'm really reluctant to clip anything over it. However, that same design has been around for a while, and there are no reports of combustion. So I dunno

I have been using Indivision AGA mk1 for years and no problems with overheating (closed A1200 desktop).

Lord Aga · 01 July 2020, 15:03

Is it hot to the touch? I would be compelled to put some kind of active cooling inside

Liqourice · 01 July 2020, 15:12

No love for us with 4000D's though.

Predseda · 01 July 2020, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

Is it hot to the touch? I would be compelled to put some kind of active cooling inside

The surface of the upper case is warm, but not much.

Lord Aga · 01 July 2020, 15:22

I meant the chip. Or, I guess, the PCB that is covering it.

roondar · 01 July 2020, 16:03

Am I reading it right? They're going to allow digital output? Because that would be a "killer" feature for me - my monitor supports 50Hz over HDMI, but has some issues with a 50Hz over VGA signal.

wiz12 · 01 July 2020, 18:27

This looks like it will be a big improvement over the AGAmk2cr as it now supports V-Sync. That should eliminate any stutter for smooth scrolling.

Retro-Nerd · 01 July 2020, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by roondar

Am I reading it right? They're going to allow digital output? Because that would be a "killer" feature for me - my monitor supports 50Hz over HDMI, but has some issues with a 50Hz over VGA signal.

The MK2 could do that do. DVI, or via DVI to HDMI adapter. Though proper 50fps/50Hz was picky on some displays via the software tool. Could be better now with the MK3, we'll see.

AmigaHope · 01 July 2020, 19:43

It would be awesome if it would bring forward the Indivision ECS feature of 100Hz output of 50Hz modes, thus allowing operation on displays that support 100Hz but not 50Hz. (There are many displays in the US that have 50Hz support forcibly disabled for some reason).

Predseda · 01 July 2020, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

I meant the chip. Or, I guess, the PCB that is covering it.

Hm, just measured. After a hour of playing Warzone I opened the computer and the PCB over Lisa is 51,4°C

wiz12 · 01 July 2020, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Hm, just measured. After a hour of playing Warzone I opened the computer and the PCB over Lisa is 51,4°C

You can fit a 40mm fan over the Indivision part that clips onto Lisa which helps reduce those temps.

Lord Aga · 02 July 2020, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Hm, just measured. After a hour of playing Warzone I opened the computer and the PCB over Lisa is 51,4°C

That's not too bad I guess, when compared to modern hardware. Thanks for taking the time to measure it!

I wonder if there are any official guidelines for safe Amiga hardware operation environment.

Predseda · 02 July 2020, 12:25

I think the chip itself is even hotter, but I didnt want to remove the scandoubler. I have never experienced any picture problem, but you now put a bug into my head, I am thinking about some preventive cooler fan.

Akiko · 03 July 2020, 09:13

Is the CIA adaptor compulsory? If yes then I guess you are screwed if your CIA’s are socketed?

aeberbach · 03 July 2020, 11:41

Yes, it plugs directly over the chip. If there’s already a socket there it can’t fit.

ajk · 03 July 2020, 12:01

It doesn't sound like to me that the adapter is compulsory, you just won't have the option of keyboard controls without it.

Jope · 03 July 2020, 12:25

You can probably steal the clock and data from elsewhere. In a 2B motherboard there is a handy test header where these are available.

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JoeJoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 180	hmmm....The new D520 is my favorite!

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Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Isn't Lisa already the hottest running chip in A1200? I'm really reluctant to clip anything over it. However, that same design has been around for a while, and there are no reports of combustion. So I dunno

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Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Is it hot to the touch? I would be compelled to put some kind of active cooling inside

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Liqourice Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Posts: 107	No love for us with 4000D's though.

01 July 2020, 15:22	#8
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	I meant the chip. Or, I guess, the PCB that is covering it.

01 July 2020, 16:03	#9
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,411	Am I reading it right? They're going to allow digital output? Because that would be a "killer" feature for me - my monitor supports 50Hz over HDMI, but has some issues with a 50Hz over VGA signal.

01 July 2020, 18:27	#10
wiz12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 752	This looks like it will be a big improvement over the AGAmk2cr as it now supports V-Sync. That should eliminate any stutter for smooth scrolling.

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AmigaHope Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Sandusky Posts: 942	It would be awesome if it would bring forward the Indivision ECS feature of 100Hz output of 50Hz modes, thus allowing operation on displays that support 100Hz but not 50Hz. (There are many displays in the US that have 50Hz support forcibly disabled for some reason).

02 July 2020, 12:25	#16
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	I think the chip itself is even hotter, but I didnt want to remove the scandoubler. I have never experienced any picture problem, but you now put a bug into my head, I am thinking about some preventive cooler fan.

03 July 2020, 09:13	#17
Akiko Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 257	Is the CIA adaptor compulsory? If yes then I guess you are screwed if your CIA’s are socketed?

03 July 2020, 11:41	#18
aeberbach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 421	Yes, it plugs directly over the chip. If there’s already a socket there it can’t fit.

03 July 2020, 12:01	#19
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	It doesn't sound like to me that the adapter is compulsory, you just won't have the option of keyboard controls without it.

03 July 2020, 12:25	#20
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,863	You can probably steal the clock and data from elsewhere. In a 2B motherboard there is a handy test header where these are available.

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