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Old 30 December 2021, 16:33   #1
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Did Retro Games LTD Licence WHDLoad...?

In a video they say they did, that means they payed to use it in a licenced product(well that only fair, it does not work without it), THEA500Mini, it licenced by Cloanto to use the Kickstart roms only(only 3 kickstarts A500, A600 and A1200) not the Amiga name...?

Sorry had to ask...
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Old 30 December 2021, 22:06   #2
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Currently there exists no license agreement to use WHDLoad or any installs created by me in any product of Retro Games LTD.
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Old 31 December 2021, 03:22   #3
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Yeah, this is embarrassing. Check the bottom text on their website.
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© 2021 Retro Games Ltd. THEA500 is a registered trademark of Retro Games Ltd. All other trademarks and copyrights are the property of their respective owners. All rights reserved. Product specification subject to change without notice. Amiga ROMs © 1985–1993 Cloanto Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Furnished under license from Cloanto Corporation. Cloanto is a trademark owned by Cloanto Corporation throughout the world and registered in the United States and internationally. WHDLoad is a trademark of WHD Llc.

This is a U.S. construction company.
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Currently there exists no license agreement to use WHDLoad or any installs created by me in any product of Retro Games LTD.
So are they doing something naughty here?
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Old 31 December 2021, 14:33   #5
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So are they doing something naughty here?
Yes. They should have contacted Wepl for a licensed use.
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Old 31 December 2021, 14:47   #6
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Not cool, seemed like they got everything sorted from the start but it seems not like now.. Still this product need whdload support, so I hope it will get sorted asap!
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Old 31 December 2021, 15:33   #7
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Considering this is due for release in exactly 3 months time they haven't left much time to get this sorted correctly.

I hope they don't just assume it ok and use it without the authors permission because that would be a big no no.
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Old 01 January 2022, 15:55   #8
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It would also be interesting to know if they used WHDLoad versions of the games the Mini ships with, because they definitely haven’t approached the author of the Paradroid installer about licensing either.
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Old 01 January 2022, 17:04   #9
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They didnt even had the decency to ask Master Wepl ?

; and the Creators of the Slaves for the included games ?

Retro Games Ltd. wants to make money with there work and didnt even ask ?
WTF !!

Who do they think they are ?

If nothing changes, i will not buy any Retro Games Ltd product
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They didnt even had the decency to ask Master Wepl ?

; and the Creators of the Slaves for the included games ?

Retro Games Ltd. wants to make money with there work and didnt even ask ?
WTF !!

Who do they think they are ?

If nothing changes, i will not buy any Retro Games Ltd product
Oh yeah.. you`ll show them alright!


It`s still not ok they didn`t contact authors etc..
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Old 01 January 2022, 20:46   #11
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Before everyone starts flipping out about this, does the shipping product actually use WHDLoad? Or is it designed to be compatible with WHDLoad as a way of users adding their own games (i.e., users provide their own WHDLoad executable)?
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Old 01 January 2022, 21:55   #12
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On A1k it has been confirmed WHDLoad has been properly licensed for the A500mini. So please don't claim anything that is not based on any facts.
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Old 01 January 2022, 21:57   #13
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Since when? On December 30th Wepl confirmed that nobody licensed anything yet.
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Old 01 January 2022, 22:17   #15
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A German Amiga forum. Looks like spudje lost something in translation in their A500 mini thread (just had a quick read). It is as Wepl pointed out with post# 2, yet.

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On A1k it has been confirmed WHDLoad has been properly licensed for the A500mini. So please don't claim anything that is not based on any facts.
The OWNER of WHDLoad begs to differ
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Old 01 January 2022, 23:14   #17
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Currently there exists no license agreement to use WHDLoad or any installs created by me in any product of Retro Games LTD.
If funding is needed for legal action, I would be happy to donate some money.
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Old 01 January 2022, 23:34   #18
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Huh, a funding? I don't think it's primary about money here. It's about to ask Wepl/slave coder and license properly from the Mini maker site. The decent thing would be to offer a bit money though (money or something else) Well, it's still enough time. Why should the community collect money for that? Sounds strange.
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Because sometimes the legal system is the only way to get things fixed, especially when American businesses are involved. And it ain't cheap.
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