A Few Misc. Amiga Questions (PAL Games, Batteries, and Monitors)

Tempest 2084 · 29 August 2012, 18:29

Now that my Amiga 2000 is working again (thanks to everyone who helped), I have a few questions:

1. I was thinking about making a PAL/NTSC switch for my 2000. Are there that many PAL only games worth playing to worry about doing this? Any major PAL only releases?

2. The battery on my 2000 was removed a long time ago after it had leaked (damage was fixed). Is it worth putting a new battery back in? Since I'm using this system for games only, are there any games that used the system clock for something?

3. I have a choice between using my 1084 monitor and my 1080 monitor Other than the 1080 not supporting PAL (which without the switch isn't relevant anyway), is one better than the other in any way? They look about the same to me in terms of picture

4. Assuming I use the 1080, I need to figure out how to adjust the vertical height since it's not quite right. Is the adjust inside the case? If so, is it simple to get to? I know about avoiding the diode cup on the tube and all that stuff as I've adjusted several other monitors in the past.

Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it.

hooverphonique · 29 August 2012, 22:19

1. the vast majority of games are pal..

2. i wouldn't bother with the clock for games only.

3. http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41527

Tempest 2084 · 30 August 2012, 16:00

I opened up my 1080 yesterday to see if there was some sort of internal vertical position adjust and could not find one. The only two additional adjusts I found were focus and picture. If there's a vertical position adjust for this monitor then it's hidden VERY well as I hunted all over for it and couldn't find one.

Jope · 30 August 2012, 17:34

Some C= monitors had one of the picture adjustments as a small trimmer in the back panel.

The focus + picture knobs on the LOPT should be left alone until as a very last resort. Basically at that point your electron guns are already close to their end of life if you have to touch those.. I've yet to see a 108x monitor that has had those two settings drift over the years.

Tempest 2084 · 30 August 2012, 17:37

Yeah I left those two alone since the picture is perfect. The only pot adjust on the back panel is the vertical height, not the position.

bdb · 30 August 2012, 18:46

The vast majority of games in Europe are PAL, the vast majority of games in North America are NTSC. This matters if you display them on a TV or old non-multi sync monitor

Tempest 2084 · 30 August 2012, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdb

The vast majority of games in Europe are PAL, the vast majority of games in North America are NTSC. This matters if you display them on a TV or old non-multi sync monitor

I know that, my question is really how many PAL only games (with no NTSC release) are worth playing? Some systems had very little NTSC support and a large PAL market and vice versa.

hooverphonique · 30 August 2012, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest 2084

Some systems had very little NTSC support and a large PAL market

and I'd say that was true for the Amiga..

bdb · 30 August 2012, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest 2084

I know that, my question is really how many PAL only games (with no NTSC release) are worth playing? Some systems had very little NTSC support and a large PAL market and vice versa.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man."

That question has no response; if you use a multisync solution, the answer is, "all of them." If you use the TV/non-multisync option, the answer is, "a bunch of them." The more they "were worth playing," the more likely they had Bi-oceanic releases.

Tempest 2084 · 31 August 2012, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdb

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man."

Fill your hands, you son of a b****!

BTW I'll have you know that I TWO eyes thank you very much.

bdb · 31 August 2012, 04:28

Bruce Dern said that to John Wayne in "True Grit" circa 1969; it means you are asking a lot of folks to respond to, how many NTSC games "are worth playing."

Tempest 2084 · 31 August 2012, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdb

Bruce Dern said that to John Wayne in "True Grit" circa 1969; it means you are asking a lot of folks to respond to, how many NTSC games "are worth playing."

I know the movie.

I guess a better question would be: Did most major commercial releases have an NTSC release?

bdb · 31 August 2012, 17:14

Yes

Tempest 2084 · 31 August 2012, 20:00

I'm going to add a PAL/NTSC switch this weekend so I should be covered either way.

29 August 2012, 18:29	#1
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	A Few Misc. Amiga Questions (PAL Games, Batteries, and Monitors) Now that my Amiga 2000 is working again (thanks to everyone who helped), I have a few questions: 1. I was thinking about making a PAL/NTSC switch for my 2000. Are there that many PAL only games worth playing to worry about doing this? Any major PAL only releases? 2. The battery on my 2000 was removed a long time ago after it had leaked (damage was fixed). Is it worth putting a new battery back in? Since I'm using this system for games only, are there any games that used the system clock for something? 3. I have a choice between using my 1084 monitor and my 1080 monitor Other than the 1080 not supporting PAL (which without the switch isn't relevant anyway), is one better than the other in any way? They look about the same to me in terms of picture 4. Assuming I use the 1080, I need to figure out how to adjust the vertical height since it's not quite right. Is the adjust inside the case? If so, is it simple to get to? I know about avoiding the diode cup on the tube and all that stuff as I've adjusted several other monitors in the past. Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it.

30 August 2012, 18:46	#6
bdb Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Posts: 239	Games The vast majority of games in Europe are PAL, the vast majority of games in North America are NTSC. This matters if you display them on a TV or old non-multi sync monitor

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29 August 2012, 22:19	#2
hooverphonique ex. demoscener "Bigmama" Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fyn / Denmark Posts: 1,630	1. the vast majority of games are pal.. 2. i wouldn't bother with the clock for games only. 3. http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41527

30 August 2012, 16:00	#3
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I opened up my 1080 yesterday to see if there was some sort of internal vertical position adjust and could not find one. The only two additional adjusts I found were focus and picture. If there's a vertical position adjust for this monitor then it's hidden VERY well as I hunted all over for it and couldn't find one.

30 August 2012, 17:34	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,877	Some C= monitors had one of the picture adjustments as a small trimmer in the back panel. The focus + picture knobs on the LOPT should be left alone until as a very last resort. Basically at that point your electron guns are already close to their end of life if you have to touch those.. I've yet to see a 108x monitor that has had those two settings drift over the years.

30 August 2012, 17:37	#5
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	Yeah I left those two alone since the picture is perfect. The only pot adjust on the back panel is the vertical height, not the position.

31 August 2012, 04:28	#11
bdb Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Posts: 239	Bruce Dern said that to John Wayne in "True Grit" circa 1969; it means you are asking a lot of folks to respond to, how many NTSC games "are worth playing."

31 August 2012, 17:14	#13
bdb Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Posts: 239	Yes

31 August 2012, 20:00	#14
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I'm going to add a PAL/NTSC switch this weekend so I should be covered either way.

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