Ultima IV and MCE - kills party

hawkman · 23 April 2022, 20:41

Hi everyone, I have been replaying Ultima IV on Amiga for the first time in over two decades. I went through the entire game, got to the bottom of the Stygian Abyss and all the way to the altar just to find...

... that I had forgotten to get the three-part key! The game shouldn't let you even enter the Abyss but there's clearly a bug that does let you - and unfortunately, me - do it.

So after realizing this, I cast an Xit spell, and expected to walk back to grab my ship only to find that all the ships are gone and the pirates aren't triggered by your presence on land.

No problem I thought, I'll just grab MCE and give myself a gate travel spell so that I can jump back to Britannia and go down into the dungeon to get the key parts.

The problem is, whenever I use MCE, my party immediately dies and I'm sent to Lord British with none of my magic/mystic weapons. This would make it near impossible to fight my way back to being ready to take on the Abyss again.

Does anyone know if there's a way to use MCE without killing the party? I suppose I could just look for a video of what happens when you have the key but that sort of defeats my goal of finally after all these years beating the game fairly.

Thanks!

Minuous · 23 April 2022, 21:52

Could you attach your original saved game file here? I will see if I can figure out why this is occurring.

hawkman · 23 April 2022, 22:30

Certainly. Please find rost.bin attached.

hawkman · 23 April 2022, 22:37

By the way, I've had a lot of fun with this game. I started it on my Amiga 1000 with Parceiro, transferred it via Plipbox to my Amiga 2000 with X-surf/Buddha/A2630+bigram, then finally while I'm traveling to UAE. My favorite use so far has been on the A1000 on the classic A1080 monitor - it really feels like you're back in 1985.

Oh, and just for fun, I got it running on the A2286 bridgeboard on the A2000 (A2286/VGA/Soundblaster/XT-IDE) as well although I didn't actually play it much.

Minuous · 24 April 2022, 06:07

OK, I have fixed this issue and released MCE 13.72: http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/#mce

Thanks for your bug report.

hawkman · 24 April 2022, 18:17

Wow, that's amazing. That worked!

Back to dungeon crawling... doing the Abyss for the second time...

Thank you very much.

23 April 2022, 20:41	#1
hawkman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: London, UK Posts: 26	Ultima IV and MCE - kills party Hi everyone, I have been replaying Ultima IV on Amiga for the first time in over two decades. I went through the entire game, got to the bottom of the Stygian Abyss and all the way to the altar just to find... ... that I had forgotten to get the three-part key! The game shouldn't let you even enter the Abyss but there's clearly a bug that does let you - and unfortunately, me - do it. So after realizing this, I cast an Xit spell, and expected to walk back to grab my ship only to find that all the ships are gone and the pirates aren't triggered by your presence on land. No problem I thought, I'll just grab MCE and give myself a gate travel spell so that I can jump back to Britannia and go down into the dungeon to get the key parts. The problem is, whenever I use MCE, my party immediately dies and I'm sent to Lord British with none of my magic/mystic weapons. This would make it near impossible to fight my way back to being ready to take on the Abyss again. Does anyone know if there's a way to use MCE without killing the party? I suppose I could just look for a video of what happens when you have the key but that sort of defeats my goal of finally after all these years beating the game fairly. Thanks!

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23 April 2022, 21:52	#2
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	Could you attach your original saved game file here? I will see if I can figure out why this is occurring.

23 April 2022, 22:37	#4
hawkman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: London, UK Posts: 26	By the way, I've had a lot of fun with this game. I started it on my Amiga 1000 with Parceiro, transferred it via Plipbox to my Amiga 2000 with X-surf/Buddha/A2630+bigram, then finally while I'm traveling to UAE. My favorite use so far has been on the A1000 on the classic A1080 monitor - it really feels like you're back in 1985. Oh, and just for fun, I got it running on the A2286 bridgeboard on the A2000 (A2286/VGA/Soundblaster/XT-IDE) as well although I didn't actually play it much.

24 April 2022, 06:07	#5
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	OK, I have fixed this issue and released MCE 13.72: http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/#mce Thanks for your bug report.

24 April 2022, 18:17	#6
hawkman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: London, UK Posts: 26	Wow, that's amazing. That worked! Back to dungeon crawling... doing the Abyss for the second time... Thank you very much.

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