Supercars 2 AGA - Page 13

jotd · 24 July 2021, 20:47

Ah nice attempts. The ice track is good. I didn't see the big picture at once

It's exactly the kind of stuff I could use for extra tracks.

Be prepared to create all 21 tracks if you go down that route... I have created 2 tracks myself for Supercars 3 but they're pretty complex. Looking for simpler ones. Not all tracks have all the features: bends, jumps, trains, gates, slopes, tunnels.

ItsTheSmell · 10 August 2021, 19:55

With all this tinkering it'd be more fitting to create a new game and not an improved version of SC2.

tomcat666 · 10 August 2021, 20:02

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Originally Posted by ItsTheSmell

With all this tinkering it'd be more fitting to create a new game and not an improved version of SC2.

You're very welcome to do it too !

CaptainNow · 10 August 2021, 20:10

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Originally Posted by ItsTheSmell

With all this tinkering it'd be more fitting to create a new game and not an improved version of SC2.

I think how we chose to spend our spare time is up to us, no?

saimon69 · 10 August 2021, 20:19

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Originally Posted by CaptainNow

I think how we chose to spend our spare time is up to us, no?

Kidding me? :P

ItsTheSmell · 10 August 2021, 20:29

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Originally Posted by CaptainNow

I think how we chose to spend our spare time is up to us, no?

No, its up to me what you do. Now go make SC4.

jotd · 10 August 2021, 22:06

@CaptainNow your trick about the mirroring + rotation of the tracks isn't going to cut it after all

Just because bridges/tunnels (and jumps) have to be horizontal for technical reasons (clipping). Check the circuits I think it's always the case.

Too bad as it was a great idea. It could still be a great idea to create a new track but it would need reworking in some areas.

john4p · 29 August 2021, 09:52

There's zero difference regarding gameplay/difficulty to the OCS version, right?

Biscuit · 29 August 2021, 11:38

Ha. I dropped in to ask exactly the same question, John. Beat me to it.

jotd · 29 August 2021, 11:56

same thing, no changes. I wouldn't dare changing such a masterpiece in gameplay.

john4p · 29 August 2021, 12:27

Great, then we can allow it for the next round of the competition (additionally to the OCS version) I guess.

Biscuit · 29 August 2021, 13:37

Also I just gave it a go. Didn't realise you had come so far so quickly. Looks really good.

jotd · 29 August 2021, 22:13

thanks! There are only a few minor problems right now. I noticed that with comm screens on, you always get the ecologist woman after the first race. Most annoying, but probably easily fixable now that I spotted it.

Also, game is sometimes jerky at least on my A1200/060 in PAL, but if I select NTSC, then it's way better.

Really busy with work resuming + pacman to finish coding, but I'm not letting the SC AGA version unfinished now that the toughest changes have been done.

john4p · 15 September 2021, 12:01

This is pretty much perfect. Only the neon pink cars stand out negatively - their color is too bright.

Could you please change their color some day to royal blue, dark pink, silver or beige?

jotd · 15 September 2021, 12:08

I could consider that. Can you post pics of the "offending" cars and a mockup of the colors you'd like? I have the commscreens randomness to fix and just completed a project so I can have a look.

ransom1122 · 15 September 2021, 12:43

The only offending color car is the bright pink one. I have mocked up the colors John is talking about... Not sure if Silver is a good idea is it seems as it can clash with the track color..

Anyway hope this helps

jotd · 15 September 2021, 13:53

Silver would be wasting colors. I like both purple and blue. Okay.

jurassicman · 15 September 2021, 15:17

purple is cool...

Would it be possible to have 10 different colors? It's been a while that I don't play this game but if I remember well there were cars with the same color... am I wrong?

jotd · 15 September 2021, 15:28

aah I wish that was possible, but you see, the fact that there are 3 different colors in the ECS version is already a feat.

The graphics are planar, and blitting 1 particular bitplane of the graphics at given bitplanes (0, 1, or 2) change the color. That's a trick I inherited from the ECS version and extended (with difficulty) to the AGA version (with an extra bitplane, which allows not 3 different colors but now 6).

To make it short, geting 10 different colors that would require going full 8 bitplanes, at the expense of performance (7 bitplanes is already 1 more than the ECS version and it is already slow on some configs). And a big fat 68060 doesn't help, it's a blitter bottleneck issue.

john4p · 15 September 2021, 16:43

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Originally Posted by ransom1122

The only offending color car is the bright pink one. I have mocked up the colors John is talking about... Not sure if Silver is a good idea is it seems as it can clash with the track color..

Anyway hope this helps

Thanks ransom!

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Originally Posted by jotd

Silver would be wasting colors. I like both purple and blue. Okay.

Cool - thank you in advance!

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24 July 2021, 20:47	#241
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	Ah nice attempts. The ice track is good. I didn't see the big picture at once It's exactly the kind of stuff I could use for extra tracks. Be prepared to create all 21 tracks if you go down that route... I have created 2 tracks myself for Supercars 3 but they're pretty complex. Looking for simpler ones. Not all tracks have all the features: bends, jumps, trains, gates, slopes, tunnels.

10 August 2021, 19:55	#242
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	With all this tinkering it'd be more fitting to create a new game and not an improved version of SC2.

10 August 2021, 22:06	#247
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	@CaptainNow your trick about the mirroring + rotation of the tracks isn't going to cut it after all Just because bridges/tunnels (and jumps) have to be horizontal for technical reasons (clipping). Check the circuits I think it's always the case. Too bad as it was a great idea. It could still be a great idea to create a new track but it would need reworking in some areas.

29 August 2021, 09:52	#248
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	There's zero difference regarding gameplay/difficulty to the OCS version, right?

29 August 2021, 11:38	#249
Biscuit Baked Produce Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Age: 43 Posts: 1,197	Ha. I dropped in to ask exactly the same question, John. Beat me to it.

29 August 2021, 11:56	#250
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	same thing, no changes. I wouldn't dare changing such a masterpiece in gameplay.

29 August 2021, 12:27	#251
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Great, then we can allow it for the next round of the competition (additionally to the OCS version) I guess.

29 August 2021, 13:37	#252
Biscuit Baked Produce Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Age: 43 Posts: 1,197	Also I just gave it a go. Didn't realise you had come so far so quickly. Looks really good.

29 August 2021, 22:13	#253
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	thanks! There are only a few minor problems right now. I noticed that with comm screens on, you always get the ecologist woman after the first race. Most annoying, but probably easily fixable now that I spotted it. Also, game is sometimes jerky at least on my A1200/060 in PAL, but if I select NTSC, then it's way better. Really busy with work resuming + pacman to finish coding, but I'm not letting the SC AGA version unfinished now that the toughest changes have been done.

15 September 2021, 12:01	#254
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	This is pretty much perfect. Only the neon pink cars stand out negatively - their color is too bright. Could you please change their color some day to royal blue, dark pink, silver or beige?

15 September 2021, 12:08	#255
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	I could consider that. Can you post pics of the "offending" cars and a mockup of the colors you'd like? I have the commscreens randomness to fix and just completed a project so I can have a look.

15 September 2021, 12:43	#256
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	The only offending color car is the bright pink one. I have mocked up the colors John is talking about... Not sure if Silver is a good idea is it seems as it can clash with the track color.. Anyway hope this helps

15 September 2021, 13:53	#257
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	Silver would be wasting colors. I like both purple and blue. Okay.

15 September 2021, 15:17	#258
jurassicman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Sassari/Italy Posts: 867	purple is cool... Would it be possible to have 10 different colors? It's been a while that I don't play this game but if I remember well there were cars with the same color... am I wrong?

15 September 2021, 15:28	#259
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	aah I wish that was possible, but you see, the fact that there are 3 different colors in the ECS version is already a feat. The graphics are planar, and blitting 1 particular bitplane of the graphics at given bitplanes (0, 1, or 2) change the color. That's a trick I inherited from the ECS version and extended (with difficulty) to the AGA version (with an extra bitplane, which allows not 3 different colors but now 6). To make it short, geting 10 different colors that would require going full 8 bitplanes, at the expense of performance (7 bitplanes is already 1 more than the ECS version and it is already slow on some configs). And a big fat 68060 doesn't help, it's a blitter bottleneck issue.

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