different cracks different disks?

[pubzombie]

Hi chaps,
I have asked something similar before and know that there are different cracks of the same games, but what does it mean when there is two versions of the same disk with an a thus : [a] ?
for instance supercars 2 (1991) (gremlin) [cr_skr] = cracked skidrow i presume? (disk 1 of 4) [a]? or even [a2]?
I have also seen them cracked by the same people but with 'nomad' added to it. what does that mean?
just wondering how many i should download for supercars 2 - also i think there is an AGA version?
Cheers
PZ

[DamienD]

Here's a quick list of the TOSEC dump information flags:

[a] Alternate version
[b] Bad dump
[cr] Cracked
[cr Crack Group] Cracked by Crack Group
[f] Fixed
[f save] - fixed to allow saving
[f copier] - fixed for use on a copier
[f NTSC] - fixed for NTSC systems
[h] Hacked
[h Hacker Group] - Hacked by Hacker Group
[m] Modified
[m Modifier] - Modified by Modifier
[o] Overdump
[p] Pirate (non-licensed)
[t] Trained
[t Trainer Group] - Trained by Trainer Group
[t +5] - Plus five trainer
[tr] Translation
[tr Fr] - Translated to French
[tr En] - Translated to English
[u] Underdump
[!] Verified Good dump

Originally Posted by pubzombie

just wondering how many i should download for supercars 2 - also i think there is an AGA version?

No such thing, check HOL if unsure about what different chipset versions exist

[TCD]

{===============//===============}
{/*** Dump Information Flags ***/}
{===============//===============}

[a] Alternate version

It means that it's the same combination of game, cracker and maybe trainer, but disks CRC value is different. That can mean several things like that a different hiscore table is saved to disk or that someone changed some files. If the non [a] disk doesn't work it's always worth to check the other ones

[DH]

[a] stands for alternate

An alternate version of the software with small differences like the readme files, etc.
The variants are:
[a] – Alternate version
[a Descriptor] – Alternate (including reason)
Some examples of descriptors:
highscore = Only a highscore table entry is different from a non [a] image
readme = Only a readme file is different from a non [a] image

Now you're gonna wish you never asked

[pubzombie]

yay cheers guys that really explains a lot now. Its a useful archiving system - as a historian i can appreciate that, and the amount of collective work that has/is gone/going into these sorts of archives. Thank god somebody cares
one more question what does [overdumped] mean. I spent ages trying to get my amiga emu working on my Gp2x until i got an 'overdumped' version of a kickrom
cheers
Pz
ps i found a supercars disk titled "[f_aga_nomad]" is that not AGA?

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pubzombie

one more question what does [overdumped]

This means that it's not the correct size, most probably parts are duplicated somehow or maybe data filed with FFFFFFs.

Originally Posted by pubzombie

ps i found a supercars disk titled "[f_aga_nomad]" is that not AGA?

This mean "fixed" to work on "AGA" Amiga's i.e. 680x0 CPUs and is done by "nomad".

[s2325]

f_aga - fixed for AGA machines, with this fix you can run it on A1200 but game is the same as on A500 (no enhanced graphics)

[pubzombie]

Originally Posted by DamienD

This means that it's not the correct size, most probably parts are duplicated somehow or maybe data filed with FFFFFFs.

why fill it with FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF's
or change its size?
just curious
Pz

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pubzombie

why fill it with FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF's
or change its size?
just curious
Pz

Incorrect dumping process I guess...

[pubzombie]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Incorrect dumping process I guess...

ahhh ooooooookkkkkkk

like when your finger goes through the toilet paper

[Supamax]

Originally Posted by pubzombie

ahhh ooooooookkkkkkk

like when your finger goes through the toilet paper

OMG what an ugly example

[pubzombie]

sorry couldn't resist

[DH]

You want the .PDF courtesy of PandMonum, tells you all about TNC/TOSEC Naming Convention http://panda.pt-server.com/amiga/tnc.pdf

Edit: btw. This is still WIP (work in Progress) so it's not 100% accurate but PandMonium reckons it's at least 99.9% accurate

[pubzombie]

@DHR,
cheers dude, very interesting.

[lilalurl]

You should edit that title before somebody silly (I must admit I was really tempted) start posting different pictures of dragons or draculas, the same way it was done with carps

[pubzombie]

lol - ok done - dyslexic dioiti

[DH]

Change it back, I wanna see some piccies of dragons or draculas

[TCD]

Originally Posted by pubzombie

lol - ok done - dyslexic dioiti

Didn't see it last night I hope Damien will take care of the thread title now

Edit : One for DH

[DH]

I knew it, I thought there was something that us mortals of EAB couldn't change, Leave it alone Damien, lets see what happens

[pubzombie]

Personally I always thought Dracula was a bit of a effet snob. All aristocratic and full of himself, the upper-class undead as it were. i find zombies much more appealing; the working class of the undead, the Everyman of the underworld, the proletariat of the horror world. I suppose Dracula does have a bevy of sexy lady vampire friends - i mean look what happens to Keanu 'surfer dude' Reeves in dracs castle; what a way to go, vampire sex death. sex death with zombies just doesn't work - well in a niche market maybe?