Creepy... the game ;)

[TCD]

So there's this entry: https://hol.abime.net/3121

Which is not the same game as this: https://www.atarilegend.com/games/882

It also doesn't mention Thalamus when you start it anywhere. It's also not on Spielekiste or Nordlicht (German PD collections) [thank you for checking AMIPEGUSER]. So does anyone know one of the people that made the game or where it originated? It looks like a non commercial game. Any info about it would be welcome

[Predseda]

This indeed does not look as a commercial game, you are right.

[AMIPEGUSER]

You find nothing in commercial Games.

So Believe it is not a real commercial.

I also checked my lists on Spielekiste and Nordlicht. Nothing.
So it seems it was also no PD.

I checked my Lists of 5th Dimension and F1 Lcenceware. Nothing.

So I believe it was something like a Shareware Games which was sended via Order.

If you think Games like Legend of Falconia or Dark Angel Full was also not listed as PD
and downloadable, nowhere.

[TCD]

Thank you for checking AMIPEGUSER I'll wait a few more days and hopefully somebody knows anything about the origin of this game.

[Predseda]

In meantime I have removed publisher and licence on LemonAmiga at least. Thank for pointing this out.

[SoDa7]

It reminds me of Nibbler. Would like to see it released, looks interesting

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Predseda

In meantime I have removed publisher and licence on LemonAmiga at least.

Yeah, I will do the same until we find out if it was ever published.

[dreadnought]

I wouldn't bo too hasty with removing the Commercial references. After all, it could be that whoever put that Thalamus reference there had a real reason for it.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

I wouldn't bo too hasty with removing the Commercial references. After all, it could be that whoever put that Thalamus reference there had a real reason for it.

Yep, and once we know that reason I'll put it back. Since there's no box, disk or review and there's no logo in the game I rather put it to 'unknown' for now.

[NPI]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

I wouldn't bo too hasty with removing the Commercial references. After all, it could be that whoever put that Thalamus reference there had a real reason for it.

Might be a pirate who wanted to sell the game by putting a known publisher as a reference.

[TCD]

I'll put it this way: In 2001 when HOL started some of info was more on the hearsay side. Over time as more pictures and scans surfaced the entries became more backed by actual proof. Whoever put Thalamus as the publisher did it for a reason, but if in 2022 noone else backed that reason up with actual evidence in form of a picture or scan anywhere on the internet... hopefully I made my point of view understandable.

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by TCD

Yep, and once we know that reason I'll put it back. Since there's no box, disk or review and there's no logo in the game I rather put it to 'unknown' for now.

My point is that we might never know the reason, but it still might be true. I'd rather stick with respecting the previous entries, if there is no evidence that they were wrong.



There are many games which do not look like commercial releases at all, and yet quite possibly were just that. Eg I was checking out this yesterday: https://hol.abime.net/6339

[TCD]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

There are many games which do not look like commercial releases at all, and yet quite possibly were just that. Eg I was checking out this yesterday: https://hol.abime.net/6339

Ah, Courbois It's like the German Schatztruhe. They are both not the same as EA or Team 17, but not exactly PD. It's a good point though. I'll forward it to the team and I also think they shouldn't be in the same category as big box publisher.

[NPI]

This was originally a PD game, Courbois only slapped their name on the title screen.

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by NPI

This was originally a PD game, Courbois only slapped their name on the title screen.

Yeah, but if they really release it commercially then it doesn't matter.



Btw, yes, there should be a note that the games was released in 1990 as SW first, that's why I made a note about it ( I am crawling through 1991 entries atm). But am not sure splintering the license category is a good idea...commercial is commercial, and whether one publisher was bigger than the other it;s subjective.



Anyway, I meant it as an example that a most basic game can be "commercial" too, the only difference here is that this one has the Courbois text and Creepy doesn't have any (maybe because it was never commercial or because Thalamus didn't bother).

[merman]

Having researched this, it looks like it was submitted to Thalamus but was never accepted.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by merman

Having researched this, it looks like it was submitted to Thalamus but was never accepted.

Ah, thank you That would explain why there are no pictures of the physical game.

[NPI]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

Yeah, but if they really release it commercially then it doesn't matter.

It does matter. They are most precisely hacks, but there isn't a license category on HoL for that.

Originally Posted by merman

Having researched this, it looks like it was submitted to Thalamus but was never accepted.

Possibly Crash Landing had a similar fate with Codemasters.

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by NPI

It does matter. They are most precisely hacks, but there isn't a license category on HoL for that.

You miss the point, but I'll leave it at that. No point arguing about it

[Galahad/FLT]

With regards Crash Landing, I suspect I know what the score with that is.

It was written by ex-Anarchy members, who might still have been in Anarchy at the same time.

Del/Anarchy (Aka Del Gilcrist) worked for quite a long time for Codemasters, and it wouldn't surprise me that the original intention was for it to be a Codemasters release, but it either wasn't finished, or Codemasters ultimately decided it wasn't for them, so it got released anyway.

I shall be nosey and ask.