Brutal Sports Football ECS

tomead · 26 February 2010, 11:42

I am new to the boards, so hello everyone. I have just recieved an original of this game, and I have noticed that there is no WHDLoad install for this version just the A1200 and CD32 version. Just wondering if anyone would interested in having a look at an install.

EreWeGo · 01 March 2010, 04:17

Welcome to EAB Tomead, and I second your request mate - I'd love for someone to make a WHDLoad install for the ECS version too! The AGA version has some major problems - which I've mentioned before, it seems to run like a slideshow, very jerky etc.

Anyway, let's hope someone takes up the challenge for this cool game.

StingRay · 01 March 2010, 13:26

Had a few minutes to spare at work and made the WHDLoad patch for the ECS version of this game. Disk images in The Zone, patch+source attched to this post. Since I'm at work the patch is not much tested but it seems to work fine. Feel free to report any problems with the patch.

tomead · 01 March 2010, 19:04

Thanks StingRay, have tried the slave and it works fine. Just checking does the slave quit on 68000, as doesnt seems to work on my A500 or A600 ?
I guess you fixed the dodgy memory detect routine, as the original always gurus on my 1Mb chip A500 when starting a game. But it worked on my other A500 which is 512K chip 512K slow fast, and both my A600 and A1200 which have 2Mb chip. Just wondering what the programmers did wrong !

StingRay · 01 March 2010, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomead

Thanks StingRay, have tried the slave and it works fine. Just checking does the slave quit on 68000, as doesnt seems to work on my A500 or A600 ?

I didn't check that, if it doesn't work I'll have to update the slave. Shouldn't be much of a problem though.

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Originally Posted by tomead

I guess you fixed the dodgy memory detect routine, as the original always gurus on my 1Mb chip A500 when starting a game. But it worked on my other A500 which is 512K chip 512K slow fast, and both my A600 and A1200 which have 2Mb chip. Just wondering what the programmers did wrong !

Yep, that's what I did. The memory detection routines were quite lousy (and buggy too as you noticed, they detected wrong extended memory locations on 1MB Chip machines).

EreWeGo · 02 March 2010, 10:30

Awesome Sting, thanks mate! I tried on my PC at work, using WinUAE, and seemed to work great!

I just tried it on my A1200 at home, seemed to have some problems - my players sort of "flash" and go invisible, on and off. Otherwise, speed, sound, game runs okay... Any ideas what I could try in case it's my end?
Anyone else tested on real hardware?

Anyway, I'll just use the WinUAE version for now, so thanks again mate, you really are a star!

daxb · 02 March 2010, 20:10

Upload or send me the whole archive and I`ll test it on A1200 040.

StingRay · 02 March 2010, 20:25

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Originally Posted by daxb

Upload or send me the whole archive and I`ll test it on A1200 040.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Disk images in The Zone, patch+source attched to this post.

Dunno what's the problem to download the images from The Zone? Slave can be found here in the thread as well...

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Originally Posted by EreWeGo

I just tried it on my A1200 at home, seemed to have some problems - my players sort of "flash" and go invisible, on and off. Otherwise, speed, sound, game runs okay... Any ideas what I could try in case it's my end?
Anyone else tested on real hardware?

Hmm, since I didn't test it on a real Amiga yet I have no idea, I'll have a look.

daxb · 03 March 2010, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Dunno what's the problem to download the images from The Zone? Slave can be found here in the thread as well...

Pure idleness and too much work (and possible problems) of course.

TCD · 03 March 2010, 17:34

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Originally Posted by daxb

Pure idleness and too much work (and possible problems) of course.

Er, it's about three clicks and you need to transfer the stuff to your A1200 anyway, which is for sure the biggest bit of work.

tomead · 16 March 2010, 10:43

Just wondering Stingray have you had time to test the slave on a real amiga. I have tested the slave throughly on my A1200 and have no flickering sprites during the match.

StingRay · 16 March 2010, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomead

Just wondering Stingray have you had time to test the slave on a real amiga. I have tested the slave throughly on my A1200 and have no flickering sprites during the match.

Didn't have time to test the slave on my A4k yet but good to hear it works fine on your machine. =) I'll test the slave on my real Amiga once I added the 68000 quit key support.

tomead · 03 May 2010, 01:40

Had any more time for this Sting ?

Bamiga2002 · 03 May 2010, 07:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomead

Thanks StingRay, have tried the slave and it works fine. Just checking does the slave quit on 68000, as doesnt seems to work on my A500 or A600 ?

But can you even quit on a 68000? I thought for that you need at least a 68010 that has VBR.

tomead · 06 August 2010, 12:46

Still busy i guess sting. Just let me know if you have anything to test

Hewitson · 06 August 2010, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

But can you even quit on a 68000? I thought for that you need at least a 68010 that has VBR.

A lot of slaves do require the VBR to quit, but you can write a quit routine which doesn't need it.

EreWeGo · 20 February 2011, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomead

Just wondering Stingray have you had time to test the slave on a real amiga. I have tested the slave throughly on my A1200 and have no flickering sprites during the match.

Damn, just reinstalled my Classic Workbench, WHDLoad etc etc on my real A1200, 4mb, and still get "flickering" player sprites in the game. Works fine in WinUAE, and all my other games, including Brutal Sports AGA and Brutal Sports CD32 versions work fine, (no flickering sprites anyway)

Anyone at all have any issues with running this on a real A1200?

andreas · 16 April 2011, 22:38

Other question: why worry about that plain 68000 stuff at all?
IIRC you cannot run WHDload 16+ on plain 68000 anyway, unless I missed something essential in the discussion?

TCD · 16 April 2011, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Other question: why worry about that plain 68000 stuff at all?
IIRC you cannot run WHDload 16+ on plain 68000 anyway, unless I missed something essential in the discussion?

It's not the CPU, but the kickstart. Just test WHDLoad 17.0 with 68000 plus KS 2.05 and it works a treat. Have a look yourself : http://www.whdload.de/docs/en/need.html

andreas · 17 April 2011, 01:19

Thanks! I stand corrected. I must have confused CPU and KS min specifications.

26 February 2010, 11:42	#1
tomead tomead Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chichester Age: 45 Posts: 71	Brutal Sports Football ECS I am new to the boards, so hello everyone. I have just recieved an original of this game, and I have noticed that there is no WHDLoad install for this version just the A1200 and CD32 version. Just wondering if anyone would interested in having a look at an install.

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01 March 2010, 04:17	#2
EreWeGo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tauranga/New Zealand Posts: 202	Welcome to EAB Tomead, and I second your request mate - I'd love for someone to make a WHDLoad install for the ECS version too! The AGA version has some major problems - which I've mentioned before, it seems to run like a slideshow, very jerky etc. Anyway, let's hope someone takes up the challenge for this cool game.

01 March 2010, 19:04	#4
tomead tomead Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chichester Age: 45 Posts: 71	Thanks StingRay, have tried the slave and it works fine. Just checking does the slave quit on 68000, as doesnt seems to work on my A500 or A600 ? I guess you fixed the dodgy memory detect routine, as the original always gurus on my 1Mb chip A500 when starting a game. But it worked on my other A500 which is 512K chip 512K slow fast, and both my A600 and A1200 which have 2Mb chip. Just wondering what the programmers did wrong !

02 March 2010, 10:30	#6
EreWeGo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tauranga/New Zealand Posts: 202	Awesome Sting, thanks mate! I tried on my PC at work, using WinUAE, and seemed to work great! I just tried it on my A1200 at home, seemed to have some problems - my players sort of "flash" and go invisible, on and off. Otherwise, speed, sound, game runs okay... Any ideas what I could try in case it's my end? Anyone else tested on real hardware? Anyway, I'll just use the WinUAE version for now, so thanks again mate, you really are a star!

02 March 2010, 20:10	#7
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,307	Upload or send me the whole archive and I`ll test it on A1200 040.

16 March 2010, 10:43	#11
tomead tomead Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chichester Age: 45 Posts: 71	Just wondering Stingray have you had time to test the slave on a real amiga. I have tested the slave throughly on my A1200 and have no flickering sprites during the match.

03 May 2010, 01:40	#13
tomead tomead Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chichester Age: 45 Posts: 71	Had any more time for this Sting ?

06 August 2010, 12:46	#15
tomead tomead Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chichester Age: 45 Posts: 71	Still busy i guess sting. Just let me know if you have anything to test

16 April 2011, 22:38	#18
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Other question: why worry about that plain 68000 stuff at all? IIRC you cannot run WHDload 16+ on plain 68000 anyway, unless I missed something essential in the discussion?

17 April 2011, 01:19	#20
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks! I stand corrected. I must have confused CPU and KS min specifications.

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