Sonnet 7200 PCI programming

[Timtheloon]

Originally Posted by Jpor

I noticed that even though the A1200 TX is now out of the loop, I believe FitzSteve had something running on his A1200 Mediator setup. I’ve got the Killer K1 and the newer 2021 version on the A1200 TX+ Mediator.

When I try to initPPC via the script, it’s complaining I’ve not got a compatible board. Can anyone point me to an older version of INITPPC that FitzSteve may have used to try on my A1200 TX Mediator?

Sound to me like you are missing the PPCPCI file from the "mediator" folder located in the "ENV-Archive" folder.

Just copy the "MMU" file that should be in the Mediator folder and rename the "Copy of MMU" file to PPCPCI and then edit it to ensure it states "Yes".

Also the MMU file has to be edited and set to "Yes" if it is not already for the 1200 to sort of work.

@Fitzsteve and me had different results on our 1200 setups. Fitzy seems to be able to get his to run more stable, mine crashes with most but I was able to get the warp3D gears Demo to run the only difference with my setup was mine had the Killer M1 and Fitzy’s has the Killer K1 like yours. I even tried a clone of his OS but I still had the same issues

I can’t remember if I tried the latest version but I’m sure 17.13 allows me to initialise the PPC on the 1200

Hope this helps

[Timtheloon]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

I think they got new numbers as the new ones are supposed to support config1 PCI cycles. A new pci.library (v14) was promised that supported this.

This is interesting wonder if they will release updated IC’s for the older ones

Got to say @Hedeon was shocked to read that you have been running this project for 7 years that's amazing

[Hedeon]

If it is a question of adding the autoconfig numbers, then they will be added to 17.13b. As 17.14 has no A1200 support left in it.

Elbox should add a 32 bit bridge to their A1200 mediators.

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by Timtheloon

Got to say @Hedeon was shocked to read that you have been running this project for 7 years

Haven't done much the last year, I think.

Shame not many people picked up development of stuff for it. The last month there were like 100+ G4 cards available on eBay for 100 dollars a piece. And the carrier cards could be made by the community.

My thanks to the people who ported stuff, you know who you are. And all the people who motivated me to keep going.

[Timtheloon]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Shame not many people picked up development of stuff for it.

Sadly I'm just a USER but I think development will slowly increase its just a shame that the compatible cards have become so expensive.

but you have given the Amiga Community the opportunity to experience a PPC PCI based Amiga which is more than Elbox did

[spudje]

For what it's worth, I hope to restart my PCIPPC endeavors soon. I have the AA3000+ lying here now for a few months and an Apocalypse card (128MB).

[Jpor]

Originally Posted by Timtheloon

Sound to me like you are missing the PPCPCI file from the "mediator" folder located in the "ENV-Archive" folder.

Just copy the "MMU" file that should be in the Mediator folder and rename the "Copy of MMU" file to PPCPCI and then edit it to ensure it states "Yes".

Also the MMU file has to be edited and set to "Yes" if it is not already for the 1200 to sort of work.

@Fitzsteve and me had different results on our 1200 setups. Fitzy seems to be able to get his to run more stable, mine crashes with most but I was able to get the warp3D gears Demo to run the only difference with my setup was mine had the Killer M1 and Fitzy’s has the Killer K1 like yours. I even tried a clone of his OS but I still had the same issues

I can’t remember if I tried the latest version but I’m sure 17.13 allows me to initialise the PPC on the 1200

Hope this helps

Thanks. That’s helpful. Already running MMU as I’m using a Radeon 9250 as extra FastRAM on my setup and using a Voodoo 4 for RTG

[Jpor]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Could be that the Mediator 1200TX got new autoconfig numbers. The A3000-A4000 version did and those numbers have to be added to the library. I think they got new numbers as the new ones are supposed to support config1 PCI cycles. A new pci.library (v14) was promised that supported this.

Haven't seen anything yet.

Can you post ShowConfig output here.

Hi Hedeon. When I next power up my A1200 tower, I will post my Showconfig. Watch this space

[grelbfarlk]

Only 178 Apocalypse cards left at the gargantuan price of $179.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184255849620

[dayowalker]

Is there chance on any progress to get FusionPPC running? Otherwise, could an Linux distribution utilize the PCIPPC?

Anyway,
thanks for Your Great work. The Hardware / software environment is very nice to have.

Best regards,
dayowalker

[torsti76]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Only 178 Apocalypse cards left at the gargantuan price of $179.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184255849620

I recently bought one from him for $150 (using the best offer function)

[spudje]

These are 128 MB version what I can tell right (which I already have)?

I know you can mod them to 256 MB, but that's out of my skills league

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by dayowalker

Otherwise, could an Linux distribution utilize the PCIPPC?

In theory yes. Playing with PPCBug it seemed to be able to see the other PCI devices on the bus. In theory if you can find a kernel and a bootloader and place them on a PCI SCSI controller it *should boot. However it didn't seem to find any of the SCSI devices when I was playing around with it.
Though keep in mind you'll only be able to see devices on the PCI bus so for a typical 4 slot Mediator all you are going to get is PPC, SCSI or IDE of some kind, Video and perhaps USB (since you need some input method). Maybe you could use the onboard flash as storage, all 64MB of it. Or maybe you could use USB storage.

[Jpor]

As promised here is my showconfig output:

4.OS39:> showconfig
PROCESSOR: CPU 68060/68060fpu/68060mmu
CUSTOM CHIPS: AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS: Kickstart version 46.143, Exec version 46.45, Disk version 45.5
RAM: Node type $A, Attributes $5 (FAST), at $70000000-$7FF7FFFF (255.5 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2005 (FAST), at $48000000-$4FFFFFFF (128.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $4000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
BOARDS:
Board + ROM (HD?) (phase 5): Prod=8512/17($2140/$11) (@$EA0000 128K)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/40($89E/$28) (@$EC0000 128K)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/168($89E/$A8) (@$200000 4meg)

Tried the PPCPCI file and still the same issue about no PCI bridge

here is a copy of my pciinfo output

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.
DeviceID: $9
DeviceName: Voodoo 4 / Voodoo 5
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $5
MemSpace0: $30000000 - $37ffffff
MemSpace1: $38000000 - $3fffffff
IOSpace2: $ed6000 - $ed60ff
RomSpace: $40000000 - $4000ffff

Pci Device 2:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Corporation
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $43
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $40100000 - $40100fff

Pci Device 3:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Corporation
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $43
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $40200000 - $40200fff

Pci Device 4:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Corporation
DeviceID: $e0
DeviceName: uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller
ClassCode: $c0320
RevisionID: $4
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
SubsystemID: $89e
MemSpace0: $40300000 - $403000ff

Pci Device 5:
VendorID: $1274
VendorName: Ensoniq
DeviceID: $5880
DeviceName: 5880B / Creative Labs CT5880
ClassCode: $40100
RevisionID: $4
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $1274
SubsystemID: $8001
IOSpace0: $ed6100 - $ed613f

Pci Device 6:
VendorID: $1957
VendorName: Freescale Semiconductor Inc
DeviceID: $86
DeviceName: MPC8343E
ClassCode: $60000
RevisionID: $11
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $1a56
SubsystemID: $201
MemSpace0: $40400000 - $404fffff

Pci Device 7:
VendorID: $1002
VendorName: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
DeviceID: $5960
DeviceName: RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $174b
SubsystemID: $250
MemSpace0: $48000000 - $4fffffff
IOSpace1: $ed6200 - $ed62ff
MemSpace2: $40500000 - $4050ffff
RomSpace: $40600000 - $4061ffff
Pci Device 8:
VendorID: $10ec
VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
DeviceID: $8139
DeviceName: RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
ClassCode: $20000
RevisionID: $10
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
SubsystemID: $8139
IOSpace0: $ed6300 - $ed63ff
MemSpace1: $40700000 - $407000ff
RomSpace: $40800000 - $4081ffff

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by Jpor

As promised here is my showconfig output:

4.OS39:> showconfig
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/40($89E/$28) (@$EC0000 128K)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/168($89E/$A8) (@$200000 4meg)

Mediator SX was never supported. That's what those number say you have. Not a TX.

[Jpor]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Mediator SX was never supported. That's what those number say you have. Not a TX.

Hi Hadeon.

The board I have is definitely a Mediator 1200 TX+ 2021 model

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by Jpor

Hi Hadeon.

The board I have is definitely a Mediator 1200 TX+ 2021 model

The autoconfig numbers say otherwise. See https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...75&postcount=9

[Hedeon]

Here are all the numbers.

https://github.com/jeperk/OpenPCI/bl...E.openpci_V2.1

[Hedeon]

Oh and if you have a TX then your jumper should be on 8MB, not 4MB.

[Wrangler]

I didn't think the TX was supported either? In fact, no A1200 Mediator is supported?