For those of you that must run old MS-DOS games, DOS Box has been ported

Pyromania · 03 June 2003, 08:07

For those of you that must run old DOS games, DOS Box has been ported to Amiga & MorphOS.

http://nogfx.free.fr/morphos/

Twistin'Ghost · 03 June 2003, 08:17

Awesome!

Drake1009 · 03 June 2003, 11:04

But why run dosbox on your amiga to run games like "Immortal" when the amiga version is better.

I'd use dosbox on my PC. But it still doesn't support protected mode. And I still can't play games like System shock 1 through it.

Twistin'Ghost · 03 June 2003, 11:18

Well, if an Amiga version exists, you definitely won't want to bother with the PC version (unless it is 256-colors and you just want to see that). There's a lot of games listed on the DOSBox site that never saw an Amiga release. If one is trying to live in a PC-free world, at least they can tap into some of those games for some added shelf life.

kriz · 03 June 2003, 13:35

hmmm anyways it looks very good, have to test this .... (too bad I dont have any pegasos

)

Unknown_K · 03 June 2003, 14:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
But why run dosbox on your amiga to run games like "Immortal" when the amiga version is better.

I'd use dosbox on my PC. But it still doesn't support protected mode. And I still can't play games like System shock 1 through it.

There are alot of dos games that came out just before windows that the amiga doesnt have a version for, and would be worse if they did figure out a way to port them.

But I agree the early dos games paled in comparison to the amiga versions because of the video modes.

Dalai · 04 June 2003, 13:16

Ah, good to see someone is working at a dos emulator for games finally...

cv643d · 04 June 2003, 16:17

Yeah, I can finally throw out all my old hardware...

But somebody should start work on a emu capable of win98 and emulating glide. 5 years from now games from 98 will be retro.

hal · 04 June 2003, 16:19

whee

Drake1009 · 04 June 2003, 16:41

Apparently if you go to sourceforge and enter dosbox you get 3 hits. The bottom hit is another game oriented emulator apparently. Instead of emulating the entire x86 processor though it's concentrated on dos and games on dos, I'm guessing hardware and extenders as well (something which dosbox doesn't emulate). As far as I can tell the goal with the project is to make an emulator to enable you to play your old dos games without needing to emulate an x86 processor from the bottom up. Good for those who have a pentium or amd processor already.

Adeptus · 05 June 2003, 01:25

Quote:

Originally posted by cv643d
Yeah, I can finally throw out all my old hardware...

But somebody should start work on a emu capable of win98 and emulating glide. 5 years from now games from 98 will be retro.

There are already some glide 'wrappers', that basically convert glide to OpenGL or DirectX (not sure which). There are a number of Windows-based ones, that replace glide DLLs. But the only DOS based one I am aware of (GliDOS) is crippled-until-you-pay-for-it shareware...

Unknown_K · 05 June 2003, 01:47

creative i think did glide wrappers for directx on their nvidia cards

jmmijo · 05 June 2003, 05:24

Yes I believe they did but I don't think it ever made it outta BETA

Unknown_K · 05 June 2003, 05:50

I am a firm believer that if you want the original experience without problems play it on the original hardware (hence the mountain full of computers/consoles I have).
Emulating is for the systems you dont have the hardware for yet.

As far as glide goes my p200 has a voodoo1 Orchid Righteous 3d
my p2-400 has dual voodoo2 SLI, my server has a voodoo 3 2000, My p3-733 has a voodoo 5500. Did I miss any voodoo's worth having?

Drake1009 · 05 June 2003, 08:21

Problem with playing old dos games on the original hardware is that you can't have 20 or so PCs standing around now can you?

As for glidewrappers. www.zophar.net had a lot of them last I checked but none of them work well enough for me to play Sentinel returns through. Most of them were made specifically with UltraHLE (N64) in mind and nothing else. If someone do manage to find a proper wrapper which won't dump all backgrounds, or render objects as white blocks, or remove software cursors or the like I'd be very interested.

Unknown_K · 05 June 2003, 19:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
Problem with playing old dos games on the original hardware is that you can't have 20 or so PCs standing around now can you?

As for glidewrappers. www.zophar.net had a lot of them last I checked but none of them work well enough for me to play Sentinel returns through. Most of them were made specifically with UltraHLE (N64) in mind and nothing else. If someone do manage to find a proper wrapper which won't dump all backgrounds, or render objects as white blocks, or remove software cursors or the like I'd be very interested.

You dont need 20 dos machines really. I have a 386/40 that can be turned to 8mhz with the turbo switch (to play the 286 or earlier games) and a p200mmx for the last generation games and associated hardware. I just hide my 4 game pc's under my desk and use a KVM to switch between them (switches sound too). The fact that I have multpile sound cards on the 386 and pentium lets the games use the optimal sound card for the era. It was kind of interesting to setup but works out great. I have yet to find a game that doesnt work perfect on one of these machines (you never know).

Drake1009 · 05 June 2003, 23:31

Problem with that is that I don't have the hardware nor the space

jmmijo · 06 June 2003, 00:12

This is usually what it comes down to however, space limitations

Unknown_K · 06 June 2003, 00:17

Yes, space would be the limiting factor since old pc hardware is basically given away (except for the good video/audio cards but they are cheap on ebay).

RetroMan · 06 June 2003, 11:44

Hmmm, anyone got that 68k Version to work

03 June 2003, 08:07	#1
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03 June 2003, 08:17	#2
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Awesome!

03 June 2003, 11:04	#3
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	But why run dosbox on your amiga to run games like "Immortal" when the amiga version is better. I'd use dosbox on my PC. But it still doesn't support protected mode. And I still can't play games like System shock 1 through it.

03 June 2003, 11:18	#4
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Well, if an Amiga version exists, you definitely won't want to bother with the PC version (unless it is 256-colors and you just want to see that). There's a lot of games listed on the DOSBox site that never saw an Amiga release. If one is trying to live in a PC-free world, at least they can tap into some of those games for some added shelf life.

03 June 2003, 13:35	#5
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,195	hmmm anyways it looks very good, have to test this .... (too bad I dont have any pegasos )

04 June 2003, 13:16	#7
Dalai Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: UK Posts: 148	Ah, good to see someone is working at a dos emulator for games finally...

04 June 2003, 16:17	#8
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Yeah, I can finally throw out all my old hardware... But somebody should start work on a emu capable of win98 and emulating glide. 5 years from now games from 98 will be retro.

04 June 2003, 16:19	#9
hal where am i ? Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: akureyri iceland Age: 41 Posts: 187	whee

04 June 2003, 16:41	#10
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Apparently if you go to sourceforge and enter dosbox you get 3 hits. The bottom hit is another game oriented emulator apparently. Instead of emulating the entire x86 processor though it's concentrated on dos and games on dos, I'm guessing hardware and extenders as well (something which dosbox doesn't emulate). As far as I can tell the goal with the project is to make an emulator to enable you to play your old dos games without needing to emulate an x86 processor from the bottom up. Good for those who have a pentium or amd processor already.

05 June 2003, 01:47	#12
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	creative i think did glide wrappers for directx on their nvidia cards

05 June 2003, 05:24	#13
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Yes I believe they did but I don't think it ever made it outta BETA

05 June 2003, 05:50	#14
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	I am a firm believer that if you want the original experience without problems play it on the original hardware (hence the mountain full of computers/consoles I have). Emulating is for the systems you dont have the hardware for yet. As far as glide goes my p200 has a voodoo1 Orchid Righteous 3d my p2-400 has dual voodoo2 SLI, my server has a voodoo 3 2000, My p3-733 has a voodoo 5500. Did I miss any voodoo's worth having?

05 June 2003, 08:21	#15
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Problem with playing old dos games on the original hardware is that you can't have 20 or so PCs standing around now can you? As for glidewrappers. www.zophar.net had a lot of them last I checked but none of them work well enough for me to play Sentinel returns through. Most of them were made specifically with UltraHLE (N64) in mind and nothing else. If someone do manage to find a proper wrapper which won't dump all backgrounds, or render objects as white blocks, or remove software cursors or the like I'd be very interested.

05 June 2003, 23:31	#17
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Problem with that is that I don't have the hardware nor the space

06 June 2003, 00:12	#18
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	This is usually what it comes down to however, space limitations

06 June 2003, 00:17	#19
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	Yes, space would be the limiting factor since old pc hardware is basically given away (except for the good video/audio cards but they are cheap on ebay).

06 June 2003, 11:44	#20
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, anyone got that 68k Version to work

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