soft-kicker for 3.1

[deadmeat]

Is there a good soft-kicker that works on 1.3 and able to load 3.1 kickstart? I currently use zkick to boot 2.0 (works perfectly) but it does not seem to work with 3.1.

[Nor Bert]

Do you have files .PAT i RTB for kickstart3.1 (for 68000)?

[deadmeat]

Originally Posted by Nor Bert

Do you have files .PAT i RTB for kickstart3.1 (for 68000)?

Ehm, no idea. I have the 40.63 rom dump I use for winuae ...

[TCD]

You can find the files in this package: https://aminet.net/package/util/boot/skick346

[DisasterIncarna]

i only really know of SKick and i dont think that works for 1.3. a quick search brings up https://aminet.net/package/util/boot/MKick19 its readme states it works for 1.2/1.3, never used it so no idea if its suitable/useable.

quick snip from its readme

==============================================================================

MJSoft's Kicker -- MKick 1.9

(c) 1992-1995 Martin Mares, MJSoft System Software

==============================================================================


What is MKick
-------------

MKick is a replacement of KickIt, ZKick, LKick and Rekick kickers for use on
machines with kickstart 1.2 or 1.3 in ROM (It also tries to be as powerful as
SinSoft's SKick).

The main advantages of MKick are:

- ability to relocate any Kickstart to CHIP, FAST (C0-RAM), NON-AUTOCONFIG
RAM or EXPANSION RAM if a relocation table is supplied.

- standard operation (like ZKick) if the relocation table is not available.

- reading of both KickIt and ROM Image Kickstart formats (encrypted
beta-ROMs for A600 must be converted by MakeKick)

- patch function using supplied patch table (may correct known Kickstart bugs).

- can be started from both the command line and the Workbench.

- Graphic User Interface (GUI).

- Small code size, because it's written completely in assembly.

- loaded Kickstart survives user reset and crashes (when the ExecBase is not
destroyed).

- C0-RAM salvage: many Kickstarts perform destructive tests of C0-RAM (FAST
RAM). MKick stores critical bytes in its own storage and restores their
contents after memory tests.

- If you have Kickstart 39.106 or higher, the alert timing constant
(execbase+$20E) won't be lost during reboot.

- Non-autoconfig can be added automatically without using special resident
utilities.

- ROM Kickstart can be relocated to RAM. This speeds up system operation on
the most of accelerated systems (e.g. GVP A530 Turbo). In this case, you
needn't the Kickstart image file, MKick will load it directly from your ROM.

- Waits for all disks to be validated before performing any operation.

- New memlist named Kickstart is created if the KS image is not stored in
one of original memlists. This prevents MonAm from treating KS image
as out-of-memory space.

- Ability to get rid of resident modules by simply pressing the left mouse
button at correct time (see below).

- ExecBase can be moved to expansion or non-autoconfig fast memory, which
slightly increases system speed. (In such case, it is sometimes not possible
to survive reboots -- see discussion in MKick.doc.)

- CPU vectors can be relocated to fast memory, which increases system
performance (only possible on 68010+).

- Memory region removal supported allowing MKick to work correctly with some
tricky RAM configurations (as 5M mirrored to 8M on GVP A530 etc.).

[deadmeat]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

i only really know of SKick and i dont think that works for 1.3. a quick search brings up https://aminet.net/package/util/boot/MKick19 its readme states it works for 1.2/1.3, never used it so no idea if its suitable/useable.

quick snip from its readme

Yes skick is unfortunately for 2.0 and zkick (which I used in the 90s) does not work with 3.1 apparently .. so mkick did the trick. The instructions were not particularly clear but ultimately you need to have kickstart and header file in the DEVS:Kickstarts folder then call it from startup-sequence with AUTO option and it works perfectly fine.

Thanks for helping out.

[zipper]

Skick needs 2.0: SKick is a program capable of soft-kicking any kickstart release
(1.2-1.3-2.0-3.0-3.1) into a 2.0 ROMed Amiga system

[DisasterIncarna]

[mark_k]

Originally Posted by deadmeat

Is there a good soft-kicker that works on 1.3 and able to load 3.1 kickstart? I currently use zkick to boot 2.0 (works perfectly) but it does not seem to work with 3.1.

Back in the day, Commodore built special Kickstart images for developers to use.

They were assembled for address $200000, which is where Zorro II fast RAM starts, as opposed to $F00000 for a normal Kickstart ROM. There were also other changes. Initially Commodore used a program called KickIt, and ZKick was an improved version of that.

The ReKick program is in the ShapeShifter archive on Aminet. It's what I would use, with the special developer 3.1 Kickstart file. [Watch your PMs, I'll try to sort something out for you...]