10 October 2021, 22:23 | #1 |
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Garrison I & II working version(s),
Since there is some interest in fixing this game, and assuming I am not mistaken in thinking there is simply no way I can play either game from my Gotek as if it was the retail version, here is the opportunity to discuss the potential issues with the IPF's or / and with the available cracked versions.
As I said earlier, none of the cracked versions would allow me to pick up different characters, all characters look the same when entering the game area. They shoot their respective weapons, but each of them look like the mage. Hit F1, mage appears, hit F2, mage appears, F3, F4, etc. mage, mage, mage . Additionally, the screen flashes (once) in red when I attempt to play from original, be it Garrison I or Garrison II, HFE v1 or HFE v3. I suppose that amounts to "uh oh, not good!" in Gotek language . And before you ask, yup, I am running the latest version of FlashFloppy (v3.29 stable). |
10 October 2021, 23:02 | #2 |
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Having looked into this, you need 1 meg of memory for the character graphics to change.
Because of the age of the game, i'm guessing it assumes and only detects for slow ram. Have you tried this configuration? |
10 October 2021, 23:15 | #3 |
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OK, can confirm that the original works fine, but the cracked version by HQC doesn't change character graphics at all, so this is a problem that requires fixing.
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Depends on how you define "the original". The original image (the IPF) works fine in WinUAE, the actual floppies from the boxed version would probably work fine on any bog standard A500, but IPF compliancy of these games is lacking to be used as such in Gotek (else, it would work from my Gotek after conversion to HFE v1 and / or HFE v3, which is the normal course of action).
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12 October 2021, 18:59 | #5 |
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12 October 2021, 19:03 | #6 |
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Maybe it could be the right time that I fix this game for a one-disk version (it is another one that I started and never finished...).
The file system is really wasteful, with its 8192 bytes per cylinder (yes, this is also the granularity ). I already have somewhere the main program decrypted and with its relocation table (so making a version that works in any memory configuration is trivial). And I also have the tracks extracted from the original IPFs (if I remember correctly the Blizzard crack has bad sectors, at least regarding Garrison I) It could also be an opportunity to try a virtual filesystem in ram with compressed cylinders with a new packer. Among other things, Garrison II could benefit from sector deduplication since many parts are shared. Well, I'll take a look, at least to understand where I was with the code |
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13 October 2021, 08:53 | #9 |
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the strange aspect of Garrison is that the Disk 1 is standard AmigaDOS, while disk 2 use 2 custom formats : The Rainbow Arts format type 3 and the Rainbow arts 4489 protection track located on track 2. The HFE conversion seems to fails on it.
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13 October 2021, 15:33 | #10 |
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Am I right in thinking the US version(s) are not protected? Seem to recall I have a US copy of either Garrison or Garrison II that is just ADOS.
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13 October 2021, 20:33 | #11 |
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Have checked and my copy is Garrison (US) that's plain ADOS, uploaded ADF's of both disks to The Zone!
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13 October 2021, 21:46 | #13 |
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What? Some git has copied over my originals The case has a sticker saying "$42.95 from The Computer Cellar" so it is a US release, unless the sticker was copied too
Well that explains that, so I guess ALL copies were protected then so SPS #0800 and SPS #0610 are the only known releases? |
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Also, the second disk isn't exactly like the HQC one (very similar but wrong audio data in a sector?), but it's not even the 'corrupted' Blizzard one in TOSEC either (as I wrote in a previous post there are bad sectors). I didn't check if they fixed the sectors or added another bad ones (taking here and there..). Anyway there will soon be a proper version with data from original game |
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13 October 2021, 22:10 | #15 |
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Hmm... I wonder if it was an officially *fixed* cracked version for the US Market? There seems to have been 'cracked' games released commercially before so maybe this is one of them?
Well, unless someone also has a US version then we will know, but best just wait for the ross SuperMegaDeluxe 1 Disk release of all 4 disks |
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But they could have done it better.. I checked, in disk 2 those "new" ADOS sectors with different data are in fact corrupt. |
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14 October 2021, 00:21 | #17 |
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Well if it's a copy that's probably why it's corrupt, probably the original owner copied a cracked version over his original?
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14 October 2021, 04:18 | #18 |
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I was browsing eBay the other day, and I noticed there was a rare boxed release of both games comprised of 3 disks, sold there by some French man, check it here. It is comprised of a boot disk and two scenarii disks (and a leaflet). Garrison I & Garrison II used to be sold separately, but also as a pack apparently, in which case the included boot disk could be used to load either scenarii disk in the same way. My point is SPS is missing this three disk release (that's the one Blizzard attempted to crack incidentally). Don't miss your chance this time, guys (just joking, I am not affiliated to this seller).
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If the disks are in good condition, a comparison can be made with the available IPFs for the raw data. |
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