(it DID search this trust me) can't run alot of 500's on my 1200

lost_lemming · 31 August 2009, 00:44

games that is. You guys are probably sick and tired of this scenario from newbies like me but trust me I did all the searches like 'running A500 games on A1200' and many combinations!!

Did google too and a few other forums suggested a disk called relokick but as I kept reading some people were saying it wasn't working for all games.
I have quite a collection of games too everything from, I dunno, Pipemania to Zool 2. and alot a few midi sequencers / trackers too.

I don't have a harddisk either, please tell me there's an easier way of doing it without having to install a harddisk!

PS. I tried the mousebutton hold on reboot and disabling things trick but it doesn't work.

NovaCoder · 31 August 2009, 01:15

Sorry but you really do need a harddisk.

Why don't you want to install one, it's pretty easy?

Have you got any FASTRAM installed?

If you have a HD & 4MB+ of FASTRAM installed you can play loads of old 500, 600, 1200 & CD32 games at the perfect speed with a simple double click of an icon in WB with WHDLOAD....easy

No floppy swapping and no incompatibility problems, my kind of retro gaming

prowler · 31 August 2009, 01:24

Yep, there aren't too many things easier than fitting a hard drive to your Amiga 1200.

All you need is the drive, a cable and some double-sided sticky pads (if the RF shield is still intact).

andreas · 31 August 2009, 12:46

Hi lemming,

I'll give you two good starters:

http://www.geraldyuen.me.uk/gamesfixes/

http://web.archive.org/web/200711031...ames.com/gage/

(sorry archive link only, Dr. Zarkov seems to have forgotten about his own site.

it still reads "we will return in May 2008")

These two contain lots of tricks and will also tell you that some disk-based games (originals!!) DO NOT want to work on your 1200 under any circumstances. For some of them, only way out is WHDload.

Retro1234 · 31 August 2009, 12:53

I agree WHDload is the way to go - But if you realy want to run disks try Relokick available from AMR and theres a version on Planetemu.
Also Hold down both mouse buttons durring reboot and change Chipset.
Some games have AGA versions so just download these.

lost_lemming · 01 September 2009, 17:15

ok thanks guys. looks like it's harddisk time!! will jsut have to save a few more pennies first

Photon · 01 September 2009, 22:43

A huge harddisk costs about the same as one game title for consoles.

If you want to save money, you could get a CF card adapter for 2 bob and a 4 GB card for a couple tenners.

lost_lemming · 02 September 2009, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

A huge harddisk costs about the same as one game title for consoles.

ah okeydokey.

by the way before I plunge one in. got a quick question, and this is more to do with WHDload. Basically, will mag coverdisks work properly on it? ie. Amiga Format and Amiga CU. ? or hasn't any of those mag demo's been added to the archive cause whdload is like an archive of working games right?

prowler · 02 September 2009, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_lemming

...or hasn't any of those mag demo's been added to the archive cause whdload is like an archive of working games right?

Right!

lost_lemming · 02 September 2009, 01:17

okay well I think I'll still do this harddisk & whdload anyway because it's been recomended alot on these forums

skateblind · 02 September 2009, 04:17

There are plenty of downgraders available, like relokick, if one doesn't work, then another might.

EreWeGo · 02 September 2009, 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_lemming

okay well I think I'll still do this harddisk & whdload anyway because it's been recomended alot on these forums

Good choice mate, you won't regret it - so much easier having your collection of games on hard drive, and whdload etc. You'll wonder how you ever put up with the disk-swapping once you use this option!

I just used a 2Gb CF card, which I pre-configured on my PC using WinUAE, then plugged it into an IDE adaptor on my A1200, and booted straight to workbench and have never looked back!

There are still some games that run best by using degraders and floppies, but the huge number of games that do work using WHDLoad more than make up for it!

*Edit* - BTW, the CF to IDE adaptor cost me a couple of bucks off EBay, (plus a few dollars more postage), and the CF card was around $10 or so. The hardest part was setting up and configuring workbench etc, but even that was pretty easy with the tons of info/guides on this and other sites.

zipper · 02 September 2009, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by EreWeGo

There are still some games that run best by using degraders and floppies, but the huge number of games that do work using WHDLoad more than make up for it!

Don't forget 289 installable demos: http://www.whdload.de/demos/all.html

Graham Humphrey · 02 September 2009, 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_lemming

or hasn't any of those mag demo's been added to the archive cause whdload is like an archive of working games right?

There are some individual game demos that have installs however.

lost_lemming · 09 September 2009, 17:21

Hi what is the RF shield? the tin can that hides the motherboard?

kipper2k · 09 September 2009, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_lemming

games that is. You guys are probably sick and tired of this scenario from newbies like me but trust me I did all the searches like 'running A500 games on A1200' and many combinations!!

Did google too and a few other forums suggested a disk called relokick but as I kept reading some people were saying it wasn't working for all games.
I have quite a collection of games too everything from, I dunno, Pipemania to Zool 2. and alot a few midi sequencers / trackers too.

I don't have a harddisk either, please tell me there's an easier way of doing it without having to install a harddisk!

PS. I tried the mousebutton hold on reboot and disabling things trick but it doesn't work.

You can also use Tude degrader which will degrade your A1200 to an A500. Making a bootable disk with Tude installed will allow a lot of A500 games to work on your "degraded" A1200. If you don't have the cash to upgrade to a HD/CF card at the moment this will work for you.

Graham Humphrey · 10 September 2009, 08:08

You can now find all the hard drive-related posts in this thread.

illy5603 · 15 September 2009, 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_lemming

Hi what is the RF shield? the tin can that hides the motherboard?

Yeah, you can toss it and you will need to if you get the indivision AGA board. Another great add on for your 1200.

I found transferring Bloodwych's "ClassicWB" to a CF card on my PC/WinUAE a great way to get a WHDload ready system up with minimal fuss. Just register WHDload and go! There are so many working WHDload games you will run yourself silly playing them before you ever get around to the few that don't.

lost_lemming · 17 September 2009, 00:29

ok thanks illy5603 I will try this whdload later. the only reason I want to get Tude working first is, i have alot more cover disk demo games than I do, real bought boxed full games.

anyway, I have this new problem with Tude, I tick the box kickstart 3.1. and hit 'exit and run selected options' but i just get this stupid window coming up saying Tude: unknown commandd
Tude: failed returncode 10.

so i then went to read the readmenow file that came with it and it's on about putting this file kick34005.a500 in Devs/kickstarts.

but i dont have a folder called kickstarts so i made me own one haha. Then i found the file kick34005.a500.pat in Skick like it told me do and I copied it into my devs/kickstarts but it still doesn't work any idea? it's defiently not my fault though I reckon tude is buggy

prowler · 17 September 2009, 00:32

Uh Oh!! Watch out! It's 11:30pm BST - lost-lemming's tricky questions time again!

31 August 2009, 00:44	#1
lost_lemming Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Birmingham Age: 38 Posts: 391	(it DID search this trust me) can't run alot of 500's on my 1200 games that is. You guys are probably sick and tired of this scenario from newbies like me but trust me I did all the searches like 'running A500 games on A1200' and many combinations!! Did google too and a few other forums suggested a disk called relokick but as I kept reading some people were saying it wasn't working for all games. I have quite a collection of games too everything from, I dunno, Pipemania to Zool 2. and alot a few midi sequencers / trackers too. I don't have a harddisk either, please tell me there's an easier way of doing it without having to install a harddisk! PS. I tried the mousebutton hold on reboot and disabling things trick but it doesn't work.

31 August 2009, 01:15	#2
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,405	Sorry but you really do need a harddisk. Why don't you want to install one, it's pretty easy? Have you got any FASTRAM installed? If you have a HD & 4MB+ of FASTRAM installed you can play loads of old 500, 600, 1200 & CD32 games at the perfect speed with a simple double click of an icon in WB with WHDLOAD....easy No floppy swapping and no incompatibility problems, my kind of retro gaming Last edited by NovaCoder; 01 September 2009 at 01:56.

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31 August 2009, 01:24	#3
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Yep, there aren't too many things easier than fitting a hard drive to your Amiga 1200. All you need is the drive, a cable and some double-sided sticky pads (if the RF shield is still intact).

31 August 2009, 12:46	#4
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Hi lemming, I'll give you two good starters: http://www.geraldyuen.me.uk/gamesfixes/ http://web.archive.org/web/200711031...ames.com/gage/ (sorry archive link only, Dr. Zarkov seems to have forgotten about his own site. it still reads "we will return in May 2008") These two contain lots of tricks and will also tell you that some disk-based games (originals!!) DO NOT want to work on your 1200 under any circumstances. For some of them, only way out is WHDload.

31 August 2009, 12:53	#5
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,789	I agree WHDload is the way to go - But if you realy want to run disks try Relokick available from AMR and theres a version on Planetemu. Also Hold down both mouse buttons durring reboot and change Chipset. Some games have AGA versions so just download these.

01 September 2009, 17:15	#6
lost_lemming Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Birmingham Age: 38 Posts: 391	ok thanks guys. looks like it's harddisk time!! will jsut have to save a few more pennies first

01 September 2009, 22:43	#7
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,628	A huge harddisk costs about the same as one game title for consoles. If you want to save money, you could get a CF card adapter for 2 bob and a 4 GB card for a couple tenners.

02 September 2009, 01:17	#10
lost_lemming Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Birmingham Age: 38 Posts: 391	okay well I think I'll still do this harddisk & whdload anyway because it's been recomended alot on these forums

02 September 2009, 04:17	#11
skateblind Village Idiot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK, England Age: 38 Posts: 580	There are plenty of downgraders available, like relokick, if one doesn't work, then another might.

09 September 2009, 17:21	#15
lost_lemming Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Birmingham Age: 38 Posts: 391	Hi what is the RF shield? the tin can that hides the motherboard?

10 September 2009, 08:08	#17
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	You can now find all the hard drive-related posts in this thread.

17 September 2009, 00:29	#19
lost_lemming Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Birmingham Age: 38 Posts: 391	ok thanks illy5603 I will try this whdload later. the only reason I want to get Tude working first is, i have alot more cover disk demo games than I do, real bought boxed full games. anyway, I have this new problem with Tude, I tick the box kickstart 3.1. and hit 'exit and run selected options' but i just get this stupid window coming up saying Tude: unknown commandd Tude: failed returncode 10. so i then went to read the readmenow file that came with it and it's on about putting this file kick34005.a500 in Devs/kickstarts. but i dont have a folder called kickstarts so i made me own one haha. Then i found the file kick34005.a500.pat in Skick like it told me do and I copied it into my devs/kickstarts but it still doesn't work any idea? it's defiently not my fault though I reckon tude is buggy

17 September 2009, 00:32	#20
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Uh Oh!! Watch out! It's 11:30pm BST - lost-lemming's tricky questions time again!

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