Squamble background collision not working

sahowe1 · 25 April 2022, 13:27

Hi,

Playing PD game Sqamble. Everything is fine apart from the ship doesn't collide with the ground, has anyone got any idea if there is a WINUAE setting I should try.

This is the latest WINUAE 4.9.1 - KS1.3, OCS, with collision set to full.

Thanks.

Cobe · 25 April 2022, 13:49

Find "collision level" in chipset setting and thick full.

sahowe1 · 25 April 2022, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobe

Find "collision level" in chipset setting and thick full.

Already tried this.

The last winuae I tried it on was 3.2.2 and it didn't work then either.

This was the first game I played on my shiny new Amiga 1500 back in '92 so I'd really like to play it once again!

amilo3438 · 25 April 2022, 14:35

Just checked in the last official winuae 4.9.1 (QS A500 1.3 512+512 with chipset/collision level = Full) and its not working!? (last fine on winuae 4.9.0)

Mclane · 25 April 2022, 15:33

Tried it with the last beta beta 0 and no collision with ground no matter what you set..

Nice find..

Zarnal · 25 April 2022, 18:03

Confirmed.

R-TEAM · 25 April 2022, 18:33

similar problem ....
No collision from the player sprite to anything (weapons/enemys)

http://aminet.net/game/shoot/galactoid.lha

Regards

Zarnal · 25 April 2022, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by R-TEAM

similar problem ....
No collision from the player sprite to anything (weapons/enemys)

http://aminet.net/game/shoot/galactoid.lha

Regards

Exact. Since 4.9.0.

sahowe1 · 26 April 2022, 10:50

I just tried Squamble on 4.9.0 and the collision works perfectly! Thanks everyone

Zarnal · 26 April 2022, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahowe1

I just tried Squamble on 4.9.0 and the collision works perfectly! Thanks everyone

Yes, but they no longer work with WinUae 4.9.1 (latest official version).

You have therefore discovered a new technical issue.

sahowe1 · 27 April 2022, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarnal

Yes, but they no longer work with WinUae 4.9.1 (latest official version).

You have therefore discovered a new technical issue.

Yes agreed, actually after checking moving left (backwards) doesn't work correctly on Squamble in 4.9.0 but did work in 4.9.1

Zarnal · 27 April 2022, 15:30

Yes, the real problem with this game is that the collisions with the bottom of screen not currently work with WinUae 4.9.1 even in "Full" level collision mode.

Zarnal · 30 April 2022, 19:09

We (AF) will be testing a real A500 soon (Squamble and Galactoid).

I will let you know as soon as they are finished.

Toni Wilen · 30 April 2022, 19:40

Statefile that shows the problem almost immediately would be nice

(still working with UAE 68000 IPL accuracy, not much time for anything else until it is done)

Zarnal · 30 April 2022, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Statefile that shows the problem almost immediately would be nice

(still working with UAE 68000 IPL accuracy, not much time for anything else until it is done)

Here are the statefiles:

Squamble : Collisions in red zone do not work. The ship enters the red background instead of exploding (Collision Level Full required). Since WinUae 4.9.1.

Galactoid : Alien shots have no effect on the ship. Same thing for the aliens that collide with the ship. Other collisions are working.
Note: The glitch ( it's other thing with this game ) on the left may be normal in OCS (I will see during the hardware test) because it is not present with ECS Agnus. Since WinUae 4.9.0.

Toni Wilen · 01 May 2022, 16:46

Fixed. There was 2 bugs.

- sprite to bitplane collisions didn't work if display hdiw was "always on" (end position out of range).
- bitplane to bitplane collision only worked if same scanline had at least one enabled sprite.

I did test it with game Rotor which uses bitplane to bitplane collisions but unfortunately part of player ship is made from sprites..

Mclane · 02 May 2022, 13:13

Hi Tony, are these fixes incorporated in the non beta beta ie

https://download.abime.net/winuae/files/b/winuae.7z

I checked the latest one with a timestamp of 15:58 yesterday but Squamble still not registering collision. Apologies if the fix is not in that version. I know it's not exactly an item that's top of your list at the moment.

Zarnal · 02 May 2022, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mclane

Hi Tony, are these fixes incorporated in the non beta beta ie

https://download.abime.net/winuae/files/b/winuae.7z

I checked the latest one with a timestamp of 15:58 yesterday but Squamble still not registering collision. Apologies if the fix is not in that version.

All is ok for me with latest dev version.

Have you actived " Full Level Collisions " ( Chipset menu ) in your config ? It's required with this game. Standard Quickstart A500 is not enough.

Mclane · 02 May 2022, 13:21

Same link as in my post?

I'm still getting the 15:58 one...

Not the end of the world

Thanks..

Mclane · 02 May 2022, 13:23

Ack, that could be the case, I forgot as standard it does not set it to full...Will test...Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Yup, that fixed it...My memory is getting bad...Thank you!

25 April 2022, 13:27	#1
sahowe1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Leicester Posts: 5	Squamble background collision not working Hi, Playing PD game Sqamble. Everything is fine apart from the ship doesn't collide with the ground, has anyone got any idea if there is a WINUAE setting I should try. This is the latest WINUAE 4.9.1 - KS1.3, OCS, with collision set to full. Thanks. Last edited by sahowe1; 26 April 2022 at 10:57.

25 April 2022, 18:03	#6
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 504	Confirmed. Last edited by Zarnal; 02 December 2022 at 19:51.

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25 April 2022, 13:49	#2
Cobe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Belgrade / Serbia Age: 41 Posts: 999	Find "collision level" in chipset setting and thick full.

25 April 2022, 14:35	#4
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,502	Just checked in the last official winuae 4.9.1 (QS A500 1.3 512+512 with chipset/collision level = Full) and its not working!? (last fine on winuae 4.9.0)

25 April 2022, 15:33	#5
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Tried it with the last beta beta 0 and no collision with ground no matter what you set.. Nice find..

25 April 2022, 18:33	#7
R-TEAM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 76	similar problem .... No collision from the player sprite to anything (weapons/enemys) http://aminet.net/game/shoot/galactoid.lha Regards

26 April 2022, 10:50	#9
sahowe1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Leicester Posts: 5	I just tried Squamble on 4.9.0 and the collision works perfectly! Thanks everyone

27 April 2022, 15:30	#12
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 504	Yes, the real problem with this game is that the collisions with the bottom of screen not currently work with WinUae 4.9.1 even in "Full" level collision mode.

30 April 2022, 19:09	#13
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 504	We (AF) will be testing a real A500 soon (Squamble and Galactoid). I will let you know as soon as they are finished.

30 April 2022, 19:40	#14
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Statefile that shows the problem almost immediately would be nice (still working with UAE 68000 IPL accuracy, not much time for anything else until it is done)

01 May 2022, 16:46	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Fixed. There was 2 bugs. - sprite to bitplane collisions didn't work if display hdiw was "always on" (end position out of range). - bitplane to bitplane collision only worked if same scanline had at least one enabled sprite. I did test it with game Rotor which uses bitplane to bitplane collisions but unfortunately part of player ship is made from sprites..

02 May 2022, 13:13	#17
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Hi Tony, are these fixes incorporated in the non beta beta ie https://download.abime.net/winuae/files/b/winuae.7z I checked the latest one with a timestamp of 15:58 yesterday but Squamble still not registering collision. Apologies if the fix is not in that version. I know it's not exactly an item that's top of your list at the moment.

02 May 2022, 13:21	#19
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Same link as in my post? I'm still getting the 15:58 one... Not the end of the world Thanks..

02 May 2022, 13:23	#20
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Ack, that could be the case, I forgot as standard it does not set it to full...Will test...Thanks for the tip! Edit: Yup, that fixed it...My memory is getting bad...Thank you!

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