Creating hard disk image on Amiga

QkiZ · 24 February 2019, 10:05

I'm looking for Linux dd command equivalent on Amiga. I want to create my old hard disk image on CF card connected to PCMCIA adapter. This old hard disk is Seagate ST9051A, I can't use it with IDE<>USB adapter, hard disk is not recognized. I tried to use TSGUI but partitions are broken and TSGUI can't make an image without partitions.

kolla · 24 February 2019, 10:19

http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/dev-handler

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 February 2019, 10:52

If you have a PC You can connect the CF Card on WinUAE and from a special function quickly create the image, or more simply use on a PC the tool "USB Image Tool".

QkiZ · 24 February 2019, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/dev-handler

This is looks like dd command. I will check it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

If you have a PC You can connect the CF Card on WinUAE and from a special function quickly create the image, or more simply use on a PC the tool "USB Image Tool".

I don't want to make a CF image. CF card will be used to store image of hard disk.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 February 2019, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by QkiZ

This is looks like dd command. I will check it.
I don't want to make a CF image. CF card will be used to store image of hard disk.

The image created with "USB Image Tool" is the same you would like to do "dd command", you can use it to rewrite a new CF, HD-USB, Pendrive etc.., but you can also use it on WinUAE or FS-UAE as a real Hardisk.

QkiZ · 24 February 2019, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

The image created with "USB Image Tool" is the same you would like to do "dd command", you can use it to rewrite a new CF, HD-USB, Pendrive etc.., but you can also use it on WinUAE or FS-UAE as a real Hardisk.

Now back to first post and read. I'm asking of Amiga equivalent of dd command. Not Windows equivalent. I'm not using Windows.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 February 2019, 11:37

All right, do as you please.

thomas · 24 February 2019, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by QkiZ

I tried to use TSGUI but partitions are broken and TSGUI can't make an image without partitions.

There is a menu option to select a device by driver.

Also try the latest beta version from my homepage: http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online...oads/tsgui.lha

kolla · 24 February 2019, 12:45

If you are using Linux, another option is to have a kernel with RDB partition support, and then just use dd. I use mac myself, but run virtualbox with Linux, and let it take over the USB port when I want to mess with Amiga disks.

mark_k · 24 February 2019, 16:58

Using dd in Linux via USB adapter won't work since the ST9051A drive is CHS-only, meaning most USB-IDE converters only work with LBA-capable drives. However WinUAE has special handling for some USB-IDE converters meaning it can be used to create an image file of CHS-only drives. (Search for CHS LBA USB in threads on EAB.)

mark_k · 24 February 2019, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

There is a menu option to select a device by driver.

Also try the latest beta version from my homepage: http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online...oads/tsgui.lha

Is there a separate thread about TSGUI? I had a quick look and have some questions:
- Can it use HD_SCSICMD for I/O, or does it only use CMD_READ/CMD_WRITE?
- How does it determine the full HDD image size? Most device drivers don't support TD_GETGEOMETRY (e.g. scsi.device, gvpscsi.device, ...). And in cases where READ CAPACITY via HD_SCSICMD is not possible it would be good to be able to manually specify the number of sectors.

mark_k · 24 February 2019, 17:22

If you install the Dev-Handler package, use a command like this to create an image file of your entire ST9051A drive:

Extract FROM DEV:scsi.device/0/0/0/0xFFFFFFFE/65536/83712/512 TO MyCF:image_file.bin IBS=65536 OBS=65536 COUNT=654

That's untested, I hope it works! Change the TO filename as appropriate.

QkiZ · 09 March 2019, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

There is a menu option to select a device by driver.

Also try the latest beta version from my homepage: http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online...oads/tsgui.lha

Like I said before this didn't work. TSGUI doesn't make image if it can't read partitions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

If you are using Linux, another option is to have a kernel with RDB partition support, and then just use dd. I use mac myself, but run virtualbox with Linux, and let it take over the USB port when I want to mess with Amiga disks.

My Linux OS read without any problems affs file system. But this old harddisk isn't working well with USB adapter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_k

Using dd in Linux via USB adapter won't work since the ST9051A drive is CHS-only, meaning most USB-IDE converters only work with LBA-capable drives. However WinUAE has special handling for some USB-IDE converters meaning it can be used to create an image file of CHS-only drives. (Search for CHS LBA USB in threads on EAB.)

Thanks. I will look for this.
Anyway I made image with xfs package from Aminet and bcopy command (also from Aminet).

24 February 2019, 10:05	#1
QkiZ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Poland Posts: 34	Creating hard disk image on Amiga I'm looking for Linux dd command equivalent on Amiga. I want to create my old hard disk image on CF card connected to PCMCIA adapter. This old hard disk is Seagate ST9051A, I can't use it with IDE<>USB adapter, hard disk is not recognized. I tried to use TSGUI but partitions are broken and TSGUI can't make an image without partitions.

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24 February 2019, 10:19	#2
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/dev-handler

24 February 2019, 10:52	#3
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,262	If you have a PC You can connect the CF Card on WinUAE and from a special function quickly create the image, or more simply use on a PC the tool "USB Image Tool".

24 February 2019, 11:37	#7
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,262	All right, do as you please.

24 February 2019, 12:45	#9
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	If you are using Linux, another option is to have a kernel with RDB partition support, and then just use dd. I use mac myself, but run virtualbox with Linux, and let it take over the USB port when I want to mess with Amiga disks.

24 February 2019, 16:58	#10
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,349	Using dd in Linux via USB adapter won't work since the ST9051A drive is CHS-only, meaning most USB-IDE converters only work with LBA-capable drives. However WinUAE has special handling for some USB-IDE converters meaning it can be used to create an image file of CHS-only drives. (Search for CHS LBA USB in threads on EAB.)

24 February 2019, 17:22	#12
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,349	If you install the Dev-Handler package, use a command like this to create an image file of your entire ST9051A drive: Extract FROM DEV:scsi.device/0/0/0/0xFFFFFFFE/65536/83712/512 TO MyCF:image_file.bin IBS=65536 OBS=65536 COUNT=654 That's untested, I hope it works! Change the TO filename as appropriate.

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