Best internet apps for amigaos 3.9?

fstltna · 13 July 2017, 12:20

I'm trying to set up a install image and was wondering what people thought the best mail, browser, internet etc apps were. I tried using AEMail230.lha but it gets a "bad lzh data" error when trying to extract it from amines.net...

Any help?

Mrz · 14 July 2017, 01:45

best browser? none: they are all very lame, but Ibrowse is yet the best
best mailer: simplemail

a good new program for the weather condtions: Wet
http://aminet.net/util/wb/wet.lha

Sir_Lucas · 14 July 2017, 20:43

Browser: IBrowse 2.4, Aweb
Mail: YAM, Simple Mail
FTP: AmiFTP, AmFTP, ATC, mFTP
IRC: AmIRC, Wookiechat
Telnet: AmTelnet, DcTelnet
TCP/IP stack: Roadshow, Miami, MiamiDX, Genesis, AmiTCP
Twitter: twittAmiga
Games: dynaMITE, HBMonopoly, Doom
AmiCloudHandlers: Dropbox, Google Drive

jPV · 14 July 2017, 20:49

For FTP, DopusFTP is the best hands down, but it requires DOpus 5.x.

And for SSH: AmTelnet, Napsaterm
(although they both are SSH1 only, but if it's enough for you, they're much better by usability than shell only OpenSSH ports which would support SSH2 too)

NetFS Revised is a good filesharing protocol between Amigas. SMBFS for filesharing between other platforms.

RC-FTPd is a good FTP server.

Xami is a good X-server.

AMIGASYSTEM · 14 July 2017, 20:53

Best Browser "NetSurf"

NetSurf
[ Show youtube player ]

IBrowse AWeb And NetSurf
[ Show youtube player ]

gulliver · 15 July 2017, 00:09

I agree that if you have a fast system NetSurf web browser is definately the best. There is no discussion worth about it.

Regarding TCP-IP stacks, despite being there various available options, I would only consider two of them because they are the only ones that support dynamic IP adresses in a proper manner (DHCP). Roadshow, is one of them. It is still supported but unfortunately has no GUI. The other one is Miami Deluxe, which is no longer supported and comes with an easy to use GUI.

Sir_Lucas · 15 July 2017, 00:33

If you like oldschool then there's also Links - text based web browser.
http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/Links2.12

There's also Jabberwocky. However, I've never used it.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/aja...bberwocky/1.9/

jPV · 15 July 2017, 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

Regarding TCP-IP stacks, despite being there various available options, I would only consider two of them because they are the only ones that support dynamic IP adresses in a proper manner (DHCP). Roadshow, is one of them. It is still supported but unfortunately has no GUI. The other one is Miami Deluxe, which is no longer supported and comes with an easy to use GUI.

Although for home use static addresses should do just fine, and are easier in some ways (you always know what the addresses are).

And if transfer speeds are important, don't install any version of Miami, they're about half slower than any other stack.

fstltna · 16 July 2017, 10:46

Ok, i have roadshow purchased and working, but i still have some issues. Netsurf starts up but complains about a missing gfx library and images are munged up.

What do I install to get YAM? There are like 300 entries in aminet.net...

Sir_Lucas · 16 July 2017, 11:25

Use SnoopDos to see what you need.

Yam:
https://yam.ch/

fstltna · 16 July 2017, 11:48

Next issue: where do i find the mui33 library? I see lots of extensions for it but not the library itself...
--
solved with google search...

jPV · 16 July 2017, 18:25

I hope Google told to install this http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/mui38usr and not something else...

fstltna · 18 July 2017, 00:24

No it was the 3.3 version...

jPV · 18 July 2017, 10:57

There's no reason to use that old version. I'd update to 3.8.

utri007 · 18 July 2017, 20:12

What kind of Amiga you have?

Download OS3.5/9 version of Netsurf here.

https://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.c...php?pg=netsurf

Download test release.

You will need these libraries

http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/guigfxlib
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/renderlib31

Netsurf itself doesn't require FPU, but those libraries does. There is also a no fpu versions of them, but I haven't tried them.

NEtsurf is very useable with 68060 and semi useable with 68040. It requires 32mb ram.

There is some confusion, as there is also a Netsurf fork, wich is based SDL / Frambuffer version of Netsurf. That version is originally targeted to no gui systems and debugging. It has custom made gui. It requires some more ram than actual Netsurf requires. It is very useable with emulators, when Netsurf is targeted to real Amigas. Sites like this or Amiga.org renders about 20 seconds and are displayer (about) correctly.

AMIGASYSTEM · 18 July 2017, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

What kind of Amiga you have?

Download OS3.5/9 version of Netsurf here.

https://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.c...php?pg=netsurf

.

These postings are old versions ?, i have NetSurf 3.7Dev (May 20 2017)

utri007 · 18 July 2017, 21:12

That page has always lattest version of Netsurf for 68k Amigas. This one is 2nd june

AMIGASYSTEM · 18 July 2017, 21:25

Just right, there is only confusion, If executable interrogations you get 3.6, if you ask information about the program you have 3.7

13 July 2017, 12:20	#1
fstltna Indie Game Dev Join Date: May 2017 Location: South San Francisco, US Age: 56 Posts: 227	Best internet apps for amigaos 3.9? I'm trying to set up a install image and was wondering what people thought the best mail, browser, internet etc apps were. I tried using AEMail230.lha but it gets a "bad lzh data" error when trying to extract it from amines.net... Any help?

14 July 2017, 20:49	#4
jPV Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: RNO Posts: 1,007	For FTP, DopusFTP is the best hands down, but it requires DOpus 5.x. And for SSH: AmTelnet, Napsaterm (although they both are SSH1 only, but if it's enough for you, they're much better by usability than shell only OpenSSH ports which would support SSH2 too) NetFS Revised is a good filesharing protocol between Amigas. SMBFS for filesharing between other platforms. RC-FTPd is a good FTP server. Xami is a good X-server. Last edited by jPV; 14 July 2017 at 20:54.

16 July 2017, 11:48	#11
fstltna Indie Game Dev Join Date: May 2017 Location: South San Francisco, US Age: 56 Posts: 227	Next issue: where do i find the mui33 library? I see lots of extensions for it but not the library itself... -- solved with google search... Last edited by fstltna; 16 July 2017 at 12:36.

18 July 2017, 20:12	#15
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,654	What kind of Amiga you have? Download OS3.5/9 version of Netsurf here. https://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.c...php?pg=netsurf Download test release. You will need these libraries http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/guigfxlib http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/renderlib31 Netsurf itself doesn't require FPU, but those libraries does. There is also a no fpu versions of them, but I haven't tried them. NEtsurf is very useable with 68060 and semi useable with 68040. It requires 32mb ram. There is some confusion, as there is also a Netsurf fork, wich is based SDL / Frambuffer version of Netsurf. That version is originally targeted to no gui systems and debugging. It has custom made gui. It requires some more ram than actual Netsurf requires. It is very useable with emulators, when Netsurf is targeted to real Amigas. Sites like this or Amiga.org renders about 20 seconds and are displayer (about) correctly. Last edited by utri007; 18 July 2017 at 20:21.

18 July 2017, 21:25	#18
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Just right, there is only confusion, If executable interrogations you get 3.6, if you ask information about the program you have 3.7 Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 11 November 2017 at 21:54.

14 July 2017, 01:45	#2
Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	best browser? none: they are all very lame, but Ibrowse is yet the best best mailer: simplemail a good new program for the weather condtions: Wet http://aminet.net/util/wb/wet.lha

14 July 2017, 20:43	#3
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Browser: IBrowse 2.4, Aweb Mail: YAM, Simple Mail FTP: AmiFTP, AmFTP, ATC, mFTP IRC: AmIRC, Wookiechat Telnet: AmTelnet, DcTelnet TCP/IP stack: Roadshow, Miami, MiamiDX, Genesis, AmiTCP Twitter: twittAmiga Games: dynaMITE, HBMonopoly, Doom AmiCloudHandlers: Dropbox, Google Drive

14 July 2017, 20:53	#5
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Best Browser "NetSurf" NetSurf [ Show youtube player ] IBrowse AWeb And NetSurf [ Show youtube player ]

15 July 2017, 00:09	#6
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	I agree that if you have a fast system NetSurf web browser is definately the best. There is no discussion worth about it. Regarding TCP-IP stacks, despite being there various available options, I would only consider two of them because they are the only ones that support dynamic IP adresses in a proper manner (DHCP). Roadshow, is one of them. It is still supported but unfortunately has no GUI. The other one is Miami Deluxe, which is no longer supported and comes with an easy to use GUI.

15 July 2017, 00:33	#7
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	If you like oldschool then there's also Links - text based web browser. http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/Links2.12 There's also Jabberwocky. However, I've never used it. https://sourceforge.net/projects/aja...bberwocky/1.9/

16 July 2017, 10:46	#9
fstltna Indie Game Dev Join Date: May 2017 Location: South San Francisco, US Age: 56 Posts: 227	Ok, i have roadshow purchased and working, but i still have some issues. Netsurf starts up but complains about a missing gfx library and images are munged up. What do I install to get YAM? There are like 300 entries in aminet.net...

16 July 2017, 11:25	#10
Sir_Lucas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwich, UK Posts: 668	Use SnoopDos to see what you need. Yam: https://yam.ch/

16 July 2017, 18:25	#12
jPV Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: RNO Posts: 1,007	I hope Google told to install this http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/mui38usr and not something else...

18 July 2017, 00:24	#13
fstltna Indie Game Dev Join Date: May 2017 Location: South San Francisco, US Age: 56 Posts: 227	No it was the 3.3 version...

18 July 2017, 10:57	#14
jPV Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: RNO Posts: 1,007	There's no reason to use that old version. I'd update to 3.8.

18 July 2017, 21:12	#17
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,654	That page has always lattest version of Netsurf for 68k Amigas. This one is 2nd june

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