Apple Mac Performa 400

Galahad/FLT · 06 October 2002, 12:53

Just bought a complete system for £10!

68o3o, 6 Meg of ram (count it!), 40 Meg Hard drive, surprisingly slow for an o3o...

Anyone know anything about Macs?

Fissuras · 06 October 2002, 15:45

I know nothing but a few sites.

http://www.abandonware-france.org/l...age=1&genre=mac
http://mac.the-underdogs.org/

And some info here:

http://www.insanely-great.com/features/010806.html

Fred the Fop · 06 October 2002, 15:54

I'm a Mac-ites, but came into the Mac realm in 1998 or so..little past that comp. try

www.lowendmac.com

No site better. I am using Basilsk and have a Quadra 605 Rom. But prefer something from the better 400 series or a Performa 500x. Wish you could transfer your BIOS over

Galahad/FLT · 06 October 2002, 15:57

then I will!

Fred the Fop · 06 October 2002, 16:10

A transer utility for DOS/Windows

ftp://www.emulators.com/APPLEMAC/utility.144

A transfer utility for Mac

ftp://www.emulators.com/APPLEMAC/utility.img

And use this superb walkthru, far better than I can describe, especially since I did not have to do any transfering.

http://www.mac512.com/ssdl.htm

But you need'nt bother to do this on my account. Just go to

www.lowendmac.com

and learn about your new pal!

Oscar Castillo · 06 October 2002, 19:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Galahad/FLT
Just bought a complete system for £10!

68o3o, 6 Meg of ram (count it!), 40 Meg Hard drive, surprisingly slow for an o3o...

Anyone know anything about Macs?

Don't know much about the older hardware, but I have plenty of website links I can forward to you. What's your interest mainly?

Galahad/FLT · 06 October 2002, 23:06

Just seemed like a good idea at the time!

Bit late for cracking on the machine (though I dare say I could do it!), just want to very cheaply get the specs up.

Hard drive is tiny, memory is tiny, are there cheap resources to making it better for not much cost?

RetroMan · 06 October 2002, 23:12

Hmmm, the Performa 400 is clocked at 16 Mhz., not very fast for a 030

Anyway to upgrade the Ram is easy, the Perf. 400 works with 100 ns 30-pin SIMM´s, so you may expand you mac with old PC Simm modules (as I did in my Mac IIsi), you should at least be able to use 4 x 4 MB

Harddrive should be standart SCSI, just go to Ebay for a bigger one (sorry, but I really don´t know, if there are any size limitations there ...)

Fred the Fop · 07 October 2002, 01:44

The Mac I am emulating on Basilisk II is the Quadra 605. I beleive it clocks at 25 Mhz?

Here's another ROM transfer tutorial.

http://www.kearney.net/~mhoffman/bas...rom/index.html

Miggy2TheMax · 07 October 2002, 02:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Galahad/FLT
Just bought a complete system for £10!

68o3o, 6 Meg of ram (count it!), 40 Meg Hard drive, surprisingly slow for an o3o...

Anyone know anything about Macs?

little bit, 030's are slow on macs unless you are runnng system 6.X. Most of System 7 was rewritten from assembly to C. Performa 400 is better known as an LCII, and the bad news is about an LCII is that its minimum OS is system 7.

fun machine to use, but as you say, its slow.

Amiga1992 · 07 October 2002, 04:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Miggy2TheMax
little bit, 030's are slow on macs unless you are runnng system 6.X.

My Classic II is running 7.01 without performance problems. of course, if I load 6.x the machine fucking FLIES

Miggy2TheMax · 07 October 2002, 04:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
My Classic II is running 7.01 without performance problems. of course, if I load 6.x the machine fucking FLIES

That depends on how many "extensions" you have present in your extensions folder. Once that starts to grow, the mac just gets slower and slower. So you 7.01 must be very lite.

Oh and one more thing.. your classic II does not have to deal with colour. The LC II will run slightly faster if you switch it too monochrome color depth.

Amiga1992 · 07 October 2002, 15:12

Yep, forgot about the color bit.

Let's agree though, that LCs are quite the underpowered machines compared to other Macs.

Anyway, I don't have many extensions loaded either... I need more RAM

Fred the Fop · 07 October 2002, 15:40

Well said Miggy. I always keep my Extensions folder clean and lean. A superb utility is Conflict Catcher. It not only manages extensions, but...catches conflicts between them.

Amiga1992 · 07 October 2002, 16:30

Fredster

My friend's iBook (toilette lid model

) is full of shit. I tried to clean up his extensions but it was hard, he's got a million and only 32MB of RAM..

Is tehre any program that will let me manage teh extensions properly so I can disble what's really not needed without getting the dreaded BOMB? ;D

Fred the Fop · 07 October 2002, 21:39

I already mentioned it m8, "Conflict Catcher" is one of the BEST freinds Macsters ever had.

I know they have a demo:

http://shop.casadyg.com/?ps_session=...22d5e4a9698981

Amiga1992 · 08 October 2002, 00:47

I thought it just resolved conflicts. Thanks!

Miggy2TheMax · 08 October 2002, 04:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Yep, forgot about the color bit.

Let's agree though, that LCs are quite the underpowered machines compared to other Macs.

Agreed, LCs are indeed underpowered class of macs.

If you want a pizza boxed mac with power go for the LC475.. neat little thing with a 25mhz 040.

Quote:

Anyway, I don't have many extensions loaded either... I need more RAM.

More ram in a classic II is an issue as it only goes upto 10MB, thats a bit of a shame because its such a cute machine.

06 October 2002, 12:53	#1
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	Apple Mac Performa 400 Just bought a complete system for £10! 68o3o, 6 Meg of ram (count it!), 40 Meg Hard drive, surprisingly slow for an o3o... Anyone know anything about Macs?

06 October 2002, 15:45	#2
Fissuras Old Luny Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brazil Age: 54 Posts: 574	Mac Sites I know nothing but a few sites. http://www.abandonware-france.org/l...age=1&genre=mac http://mac.the-underdogs.org/ And some info here: http://www.insanely-great.com/features/010806.html

06 October 2002, 15:57	#4
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	If you tell me how... then I will!

06 October 2002, 23:06	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	Havent got a clue! Just seemed like a good idea at the time! Bit late for cracking on the machine (though I dare say I could do it!), just want to very cheaply get the specs up. Hard drive is tiny, memory is tiny, are there cheap resources to making it better for not much cost?

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06 October 2002, 15:54	#3
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I'm a Mac-ites, but came into the Mac realm in 1998 or so..little past that comp. try www.lowendmac.com No site better. I am using Basilsk and have a Quadra 605 Rom. But prefer something from the better 400 series or a Performa 500x. Wish you could transfer your BIOS over

06 October 2002, 16:10	#5
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	A transer utility for DOS/Windows ftp://www.emulators.com/APPLEMAC/utility.144 A transfer utility for Mac ftp://www.emulators.com/APPLEMAC/utility.img And use this superb walkthru, far better than I can describe, especially since I did not have to do any transfering. http://www.mac512.com/ssdl.htm But you need'nt bother to do this on my account. Just go to www.lowendmac.com and learn about your new pal!

06 October 2002, 23:12	#8
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, the Performa 400 is clocked at 16 Mhz., not very fast for a 030 Anyway to upgrade the Ram is easy, the Perf. 400 works with 100 ns 30-pin SIMM´s, so you may expand you mac with old PC Simm modules (as I did in my Mac IIsi), you should at least be able to use 4 x 4 MB Harddrive should be standart SCSI, just go to Ebay for a bigger one (sorry, but I really don´t know, if there are any size limitations there ...)

07 October 2002, 01:44	#9
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	The Mac I am emulating on Basilisk II is the Quadra 605. I beleive it clocks at 25 Mhz? Here's another ROM transfer tutorial. http://www.kearney.net/~mhoffman/bas...rom/index.html

07 October 2002, 15:12	#13
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,656	Yep, forgot about the color bit. Let's agree though, that LCs are quite the underpowered machines compared to other Macs. Anyway, I don't have many extensions loaded either... I need more RAM

07 October 2002, 15:40	#14
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Well said Miggy. I always keep my Extensions folder clean and lean. A superb utility is Conflict Catcher. It not only manages extensions, but...catches conflicts between them.

07 October 2002, 16:30	#15
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,656	Fredster My friend's iBook (toilette lid model ) is full of shit. I tried to clean up his extensions but it was hard, he's got a million and only 32MB of RAM.. Is tehre any program that will let me manage teh extensions properly so I can disble what's really not needed without getting the dreaded BOMB? ;D

07 October 2002, 21:39	#16
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I already mentioned it m8, "Conflict Catcher" is one of the BEST freinds Macsters ever had. I know they have a demo: http://shop.casadyg.com/?ps_session=...22d5e4a9698981

08 October 2002, 00:47	#17
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,656	I thought it just resolved conflicts. Thanks!

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