A cracking challenge for MethodGit

Codetapper · 25 July 2011, 03:15

I am proposing a cracking challenge for MethodGit. I have obtained a version of a game that has not been cracked and spread. Slightly different versions of it have, but I want to see if MethodGit can crack this specific copy cleanly.

Details:

I will provide a complete WWarp disk image of the game.
The game is protected with Rob Northen copylock.
For experienced crackers, I would rate the difficulty as perhaps 2 out of 10. It is not hard.

Some conditions:

I want YOU to crack the game yourself. That means you can't ask others on here, lemonamiga, flashtro etc for how information on how to crack it.
You must not include a different version of the crack. I will disassemble your crack to see if you have incbin'd another version.
You can use whatever tools you like, but cannot simply freeze memory and save it with Action Replay etc. That's freezing, not cracking.
You must provide source code/notes of how you cracked it.
The ultimate crack would be you providing a single file (including source) that loads the original game, deprotects it, and starts it up.

Do you accept the challenge?

h0ffman · 25 July 2011, 14:01

Even I'd be tempted with that challenge!

Been a long time since I cracked a game

Djay · 25 July 2011, 14:24

Come on Marz... you can do it!!!

Gordon · 25 July 2011, 14:25

My motto is

"Spend less time cracking games and more time playing them"

StingRay · 25 July 2011, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djay

Come on Marz... you can do it!!!

Of course he can, after all it was no problem for him to find all checksums in Premier Manager 3 Deluxe...

Djay · 25 July 2011, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Of course he can, after all it was no problem for him to find all checksums in Premier Manager 3 Deluxe...

Ouch!!!

Jimbo · 25 July 2011, 14:44

I have high hopes he can out smart you all

OK

maybe not, either way good luck if you decide to take the challenge.

BippyM · 25 July 2011, 15:06

Sounds like a challenge.. What game is it??

Djay · 25 July 2011, 16:23

Seriously I wish him well, I would like to learn how to crack, never had the time!!!

Lonewolf10 · 25 July 2011, 18:49

I'm not into cracking and am too busy with my own projects, otherwise I'd be tempted too

Regards,
Lonewolf10

Codetapper · 25 July 2011, 23:29

I will give MethodGit some time to accept the challenge, but if he doesn't and anybody else wants a go, you are all welcome to try. I would like him to attempt it by himself first though! I might even put all the relevant files together on my website once MethodGit has done it.

The beauty of this one is that until you crack it, you can't really tell what game it is! So it's a fair bit harder to cheat by copying another version.

I will re-iterate that it's not a difficult crack, but I had to locate a game that hasn't been spread all over the place and this is the first one I found.

Galahad/FLT · 25 July 2011, 23:37

Sounds interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0ffman

Even I'd be tempted with that challenge!

Been a long time since I cracked a game

I taught you enough and you learnt well young Padawan!

zenox98 · 26 July 2011, 09:22

As someone who has used Resource quite a kot and knows 68k reasonably well - but has NEVER cracked a game - would I be able to crack this, or is it too hard?

BippyM · 26 July 2011, 10:23

Codetapper rates it a 2/10 on difficulty, so I would say it is not too difficult

Anakirob · 26 July 2011, 10:55

Allow me to express my interest in giving this a go if MethodGit declines. Cracking Amiga software huh. That is going to be a new and prehaps overdue expirience for me. Still, I'm sure all the fundamentals are within my grasp and probably explained in explicit and painful detail in this very forum. Please PM me with the details.

wolfchild · 26 July 2011, 11:53

I would also be interested in giving it a go if MethodGit declines the challenge.

I've never cracked anything, but it's always been a fascination of mine how they do it!

Codetapper · 26 July 2011, 12:21

I'll upload it for others after MethodGit has taken a stab at it.

My rating of 2/10 assumes some copylock knowledge. If you don't know anything about copylocks, the difficulty will be a lot higher! I would advise anyone that wants to try an easy one to have a go at MicroProse Soccer to begin with. I'd rate that a 1/10 difficulty as you don't really have to understand how they work to crack that game.

alkis21 · 26 July 2011, 12:29

I'm going to assume that there is a history between you guys, because judging only by the PM3D thread I don't believe that MethodGit did anything serious enough to deserve that kind of bullying. So he's not the best coder in the world, does this justify creating a thread with the sole purpose of ridiculing him?

blade002 · 26 July 2011, 12:32

Bloody hell, this forum is becoming like Jerry Springer!. Are some of getting so old and bitter that we need to resort to such pettiness?

Jimbo · 26 July 2011, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002

Bloody hell, this forum is becoming like Jerry Springer!. Are some of getting so old and bitter that we need to resort to such pettiness?

Moderation is slipping big time. To much trolling is now allowed, its like a.org over here now. Its even worse a "Moderator" is doing the trolling.

Sad but very true.

25 July 2011, 03:15	#1
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	A cracking challenge for MethodGit I am proposing a cracking challenge for MethodGit. I have obtained a version of a game that has not been cracked and spread. Slightly different versions of it have, but I want to see if MethodGit can crack this specific copy cleanly. Details: I will provide a complete WWarp disk image of the game. The game is protected with Rob Northen copylock. For experienced crackers, I would rate the difficulty as perhaps 2 out of 10. It is not hard. Some conditions: I want YOU to crack the game yourself. That means you can't ask others on here, lemonamiga, flashtro etc for how information on how to crack it. You must not include a different version of the crack. I will disassemble your crack to see if you have incbin'd another version. You can use whatever tools you like, but cannot simply freeze memory and save it with Action Replay etc. That's freezing, not cracking. You must provide source code/notes of how you cracked it. The ultimate crack would be you providing a single file (including source) that loads the original game, deprotects it, and starts it up. Do you accept the challenge?

26 July 2011, 12:21	#17
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	I'll upload it for others after MethodGit has taken a stab at it. My rating of 2/10 assumes some copylock knowledge. If you don't know anything about copylocks, the difficulty will be a lot higher! I would advise anyone that wants to try an easy one to have a go at MicroProse Soccer to begin with. I'd rate that a 1/10 difficulty as you don't really have to understand how they work to crack that game. Last edited by Codetapper; 26 July 2011 at 12:27.

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25 July 2011, 14:01	#2
h0ffman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salisbury Posts: 744	Even I'd be tempted with that challenge! Been a long time since I cracked a game

25 July 2011, 14:24	#3
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Come on Marz... you can do it!!!

25 July 2011, 14:25	#4
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	My motto is "Spend less time cracking games and more time playing them"

25 July 2011, 14:44	#7
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	I have high hopes he can out smart you all OK maybe not, either way good luck if you decide to take the challenge.

25 July 2011, 15:06	#8
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Sounds like a challenge.. What game is it??

25 July 2011, 16:23	#9
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Seriously I wish him well, I would like to learn how to crack, never had the time!!!

25 July 2011, 18:49	#10
Lonewolf10 AMOS Extensions Developer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: near Cambridge, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,924	I'm not into cracking and am too busy with my own projects, otherwise I'd be tempted too Regards, Lonewolf10

25 July 2011, 23:29	#11
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	I will give MethodGit some time to accept the challenge, but if he doesn't and anybody else wants a go, you are all welcome to try. I would like him to attempt it by himself first though! I might even put all the relevant files together on my website once MethodGit has done it. The beauty of this one is that until you crack it, you can't really tell what game it is! So it's a fair bit harder to cheat by copying another version. I will re-iterate that it's not a difficult crack, but I had to locate a game that hasn't been spread all over the place and this is the first one I found.

26 July 2011, 09:22	#13
zenox98 Joy Division Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: East Yorkshire Age: 60 Posts: 239	As someone who has used Resource quite a kot and knows 68k reasonably well - but has NEVER cracked a game - would I be able to crack this, or is it too hard?

26 July 2011, 10:23	#14
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Codetapper rates it a 2/10 on difficulty, so I would say it is not too difficult

26 July 2011, 10:55	#15
Anakirob Unregistered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tasmania Age: 42 Posts: 893	Allow me to express my interest in giving this a go if MethodGit declines. Cracking Amiga software huh. That is going to be a new and prehaps overdue expirience for me. Still, I'm sure all the fundamentals are within my grasp and probably explained in explicit and painful detail in this very forum. Please PM me with the details.

26 July 2011, 11:53	#16
wolfchild Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Malta Age: 47 Posts: 43	I would also be interested in giving it a go if MethodGit declines the challenge. I've never cracked anything, but it's always been a fascination of mine how they do it!

26 July 2011, 12:29	#18
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	I'm going to assume that there is a history between you guys, because judging only by the PM3D thread I don't believe that MethodGit did anything serious enough to deserve that kind of bullying. So he's not the best coder in the world, does this justify creating a thread with the sole purpose of ridiculing him?

26 July 2011, 12:32	#19
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Bloody hell, this forum is becoming like Jerry Springer!. Are some of getting so old and bitter that we need to resort to such pettiness?

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