Hired Guns for CD32??

zapiy · 14 August 2016, 17:31

Hi all, we recently did an interview with Steve Hammond of DMA fame and discovered is has the source code of an unreleased version on Hired Guns for CD32, was this already known?

Interview Here is this is ok?

mc68060 · 14 August 2016, 23:20

Very interesting, this definitely needs to be rescued! Maybe it uses 256 color AGA graphics from the DOS version of Hired Guns.

Cherno · 15 August 2016, 07:32

There has been talk about the unreleased AGA version of Hired Guns here on the forum, which lists some more features.

Amigajay · 15 August 2016, 09:41

Would be great to have this version released in some form, I'm currently working on a CD32 pack with this game in it, but it will need adding some keyboard commands to the pad.
Plus it would be interesting to know if they converted the save games into passwords for the unreleased CD32 version?

Solo Kazuki · 01 September 2016, 20:50

If it's not a secret, is there somebody who does something with this case?
Worrying is that Sony have copyrights and probably it will be hardest thing.

@Amigajay
If there are passwords, i assume they will be very long. Password should include team experience, places of team members, all inventory with items/ammo quantity, monsters (alive/killed), etc. Maybe there are begin of level passwords, without most of mentioned features.

Gzegzolka · 01 September 2016, 21:31

I'm sure Sony doesn't know anything about Hired Guns and other old Psygnosis IP's. If not fans approach Sony we won't have Shadow of the Beast reboot. I would love to see Hired Guns AGA version.

Predseda · 01 September 2016, 22:09

Never underestimate Sony if it is going on copyrights and IP protection. Sony used to be very destructive!

Gzegzolka · 02 September 2016, 10:31

Predseda do You have any examples of aggressive actions of Sony against fans? I still do not think we are doing here anything bad, we are talking about Hired Guns, this game was already released many years ago and only difference is that there is different version for AGA. Not totally new game, written from nothing, for those days pc's, that will be sold or use current Sony IP's stuff like characters and assets.

Amigajay · 02 September 2016, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

If it's not a secret, is there somebody who does something with this case?
Worrying is that Sony have copyrights and probably it will be hardest thing.

@Amigajay
If there are passwords, i assume they will be very long. Password should include team experience, places of team members, all inventory with items/ammo quantity, monsters (alive/killed), etc. Maybe there are begin of level passwords, without most of mentioned features.

Yeah they would have simplified them to as you say start of level, basic features held.
I'm still waiting to hear back from Steve, I'll message him again tonight.

Predseda · 02 September 2016, 12:22

IMHO not possible, because at least inventory of each participant is critical for the game.

Solo Kazuki · 20 September 2016, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

I'm still waiting to hear back from Steve, I'll message him again tonight.

Are there any news about Hired Guns CD32? Did you receive any answer?

Amigajay · 20 September 2016, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Are there any news about Hired Guns CD32? Did you receive any answer?

No haven't received an answer, I wouldn't get any hopes up for now.

DamienD · 20 September 2016, 21:47

...and be patient.

No point in hammering the guy with e-mails / questions / requests every week.

I mean, if he needs to go somewhere like his parents house to find the disks / media it could take a few weeks / months.

Solo Kazuki · 20 September 2016, 21:53

I'm afraid that's not the case. I think there's Sony IP case, not data find/recovery. Just read what Steve Hammond told in interview - he have data already.

Quote:

Scott Johnston, who was writing it, no longer had an Amiga and so he sent the hard drive to me so that I could take a back up and ensure that it wasn’t lost forever. I’d love to release it if I was allowed to. If you have any contacts within Sony - who I think own the IP - then please let me know…

For me it's obvious, that he have some IP which belongs to Sony and need first some acceptance.

Lorfarius · 27 January 2018, 16:31

He's just spoken on the Retro Hour podcast. Really wants to get this out there. Sony can't still want it, pretty worthless for a new license surely?

Amiga1992 · 29 January 2018, 16:09

I sure hope it would get out!

DDNI · 20 February 2018, 18:38

Here's hoping that a release is imminent!

Galahad/FLT · 20 February 2018, 18:59

Dan Wood of Retro Hour has been given access to it as far as i'm aware, so whether it gets released on the back of that I don't know.

Sony is very protective over their IP, but considering they've only revisted Shadow of the Beast and nothing else, I doubt very much Hired Guns is even on their radar.

DDNI · 20 February 2018, 21:28

Was this release just a hacked A1200 version for the CD32?
[ Show youtube player ]

Anachronist · 20 February 2018, 22:52

!! I would be over the moon if this was released. The interview isn't coming up in the original link, has it been moved?

14 August 2016, 17:31	#1
zapiy Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: England Posts: 46	Hired Guns for CD32?? Hi all, we recently did an interview with Steve Hammond of DMA fame and discovered is has the source code of an unreleased version on Hired Guns for CD32, was this already known? Interview Here is this is ok?

27 January 2018, 16:31	#15
Lorfarius Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Glossop/UK Posts: 532	He's just spoken on the Retro Hour podcast. Really wants to get this out there. Sony can't still want it, pretty worthless for a new license surely? Last edited by Lorfarius; 27 January 2018 at 18:12.

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14 August 2016, 23:20	#2
mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	Very interesting, this definitely needs to be rescued! Maybe it uses 256 color AGA graphics from the DOS version of Hired Guns.

15 August 2016, 07:32	#3
Cherno Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 1,054	There has been talk about the unreleased AGA version of Hired Guns here on the forum, which lists some more features.

15 August 2016, 09:41	#4
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	Would be great to have this version released in some form, I'm currently working on a CD32 pack with this game in it, but it will need adding some keyboard commands to the pad. Plus it would be interesting to know if they converted the save games into passwords for the unreleased CD32 version?

01 September 2016, 20:50	#5
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	If it's not a secret, is there somebody who does something with this case? Worrying is that Sony have copyrights and probably it will be hardest thing. @Amigajay If there are passwords, i assume they will be very long. Password should include team experience, places of team members, all inventory with items/ammo quantity, monsters (alive/killed), etc. Maybe there are begin of level passwords, without most of mentioned features.

01 September 2016, 21:31	#6
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	I'm sure Sony doesn't know anything about Hired Guns and other old Psygnosis IP's. If not fans approach Sony we won't have Shadow of the Beast reboot. I would love to see Hired Guns AGA version.

01 September 2016, 22:09	#7
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Never underestimate Sony if it is going on copyrights and IP protection. Sony used to be very destructive!

02 September 2016, 10:31	#8
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Predseda do You have any examples of aggressive actions of Sony against fans? I still do not think we are doing here anything bad, we are talking about Hired Guns, this game was already released many years ago and only difference is that there is different version for AGA. Not totally new game, written from nothing, for those days pc's, that will be sold or use current Sony IP's stuff like characters and assets.

02 September 2016, 12:22	#10
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	IMHO not possible, because at least inventory of each participant is critical for the game.

20 September 2016, 21:47	#13
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	...and be patient. No point in hammering the guy with e-mails / questions / requests every week. I mean, if he needs to go somewhere like his parents house to find the disks / media it could take a few weeks / months.

29 January 2018, 16:09	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I sure hope it would get out!

20 February 2018, 18:38	#17
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Here's hoping that a release is imminent!

20 February 2018, 18:59	#18
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Dan Wood of Retro Hour has been given access to it as far as i'm aware, so whether it gets released on the back of that I don't know. Sony is very protective over their IP, but considering they've only revisted Shadow of the Beast and nothing else, I doubt very much Hired Guns is even on their radar.

20 February 2018, 21:28	#19
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Was this release just a hacked A1200 version for the CD32? [ Show youtube player ]

20 February 2018, 22:52	#20
Anachronist Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 71	!! I would be over the moon if this was released. The interview isn't coming up in the original link, has it been moved?

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