Classic WB P96 + OS3.9 Howto?

Megatron-UK · 15 August 2010, 10:27

Hi, anyone got a walkthrough for the combination of CWB P96 and OS3.9?

Bloodwych · 15 August 2010, 11:36

You're better off starting with the ClassicWB OS39 and installing P96.

First however, go to the Settings menu and disable FBlit and Copper. They are not required for a P96 setup and may in fact stop it from working.

That will give you a starting point to work from. Then the tweaking begins, but I'm out of practice. I did the P96 pack a few years back now and would have to go back into it in detail to remember all the little tweaks I made.

fitzsteve · 15 August 2010, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

You're better off starting with the ClassicWB OS39 and installing P96

And I can confirm it works as I have done it myself, I've also used the P96 pack on my real Amiga and stick with that version becuase its much faster than the OS3.9 version and I prefer the menu layout.

Megatron-UK · 15 August 2010, 22:55

Ok, I've already got a working CWB OS3.9 image so I'll stick with that and add on Picasso 96.

What would be the best version of Scalos to install on top of CWB OS39? I tried the latest v47.1, but it really doesn't seem to work very well (preferences tool won't load, for example).

Megatron-UK · 16 August 2010, 11:08

Got a working (Winuae tested so far) CWB 39 + Picasso 96 setup. I'm now going to try adding Scalos - though I'm not sure which version to go for.

Bloodwych · 16 August 2010, 12:34

I've only ever used the non-beta Scalos - 1.2d.

I tried the other versions, but they seem aimed at powerful RTG Amiga's, plus they have a new config system for many things I setup in the ClassicWB packs and I struggled to get things working well.

Megatron-UK · 16 August 2010, 16:18

Well I've got it working now and transferred it to my CF card ready for use in the Amiga.

Just on doing a restore of the games partition from a backup.

I haven't overly tweaked it, here's the full install sequence I did:

Install Workbench 3.1 from floppy images
(SFS Partitioning and Format steps inserted here)
Install OS 3.9 from mounted CD
Install Boingbag 1, Boingbag 2 overlays
Classic Workbench OS 3.9 standard installation
*Install and add "C:CMQ030" and "C:CPU burst" to S:startup-sequence
*Removal from WBStartup: Tinymeter, Magic Menu, Toolprefs, Amidock
*Re-install OS 3.9 TCP/IP Stack + Internet Tools
Picasso 96 2.1c
MUI 3.8
Scalos v47.1
(Install of several later MUI classes required by Scalos; all are listed when attempting to run Scalos Prefs tool)

I finally booted from another, known-good, working Winuae image with the above image as a second disk, and the target Amiga CF disk as a third disk. Copy the CWB OS39 + P96 + Scalos system drive to the CF disk using your chosen tools (dopus is fine).
Replace the hard files in Winuae with the CF drive and it should boot fine (some minor tweaking of startup-sequence may be necessary depending on, for example, different volume names, etc.)

I'll try and attach a pic once the data restore is done, but it's just standard OS 3.9 looks with Picasso 96 and Scalos really.

* Optional steps - my physical hardware includes a 68030 accelerator (hence CMQ030 and the cpu tweak), and I wanted Genesis for the TCP/IP stack to use my ethernet card. The removal of the startup items is personal preference and to stop duplication of functionality with Scalos.

Bloodwych · 16 August 2010, 16:39

Well done! I bet you'll spend ages tweaking that setup to your hearts content and let me know what you think of Scalos v47.1. Just had a look at the website and realised it's been back in development again - last time I tried the latest beta was about 2006, or perhaps even earlier!!!

Megatron-UK · 16 August 2010, 17:09

Thanks, here's a snap of the desktop:

Pretty plain for now. I want to see what it runs like on my A1200 030 once I fit my recently acquired Mediator PCI board and Radeon graphics card... I don't want it to get too resource heavy as it's primarily for games.

fitzsteve · 16 August 2010, 17:20

Hey that's pretty awesome =)

Great work

alexh · 16 August 2010, 17:42

I used to really like the asynchronous nature of Scalos over OS3.9 but today is it really the best option? Are there other, better asynchronous workbench patches?

What else does Scalos bring to the party?

cosmicfrog · 16 August 2010, 19:22

Scalos Features

http://scalos.noname.fr/

Haven`t had time to read it/them yet

PeterK · 17 August 2010, 04:53

Don't use popupmenu.library from Scalos, it's buggy:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...upmenu.library

Megatron-UK · 17 August 2010, 10:36

Thanks, I'll look at (back)dating that library.

15 August 2010, 10:27	#1
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15 August 2010, 11:36	#2
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	You're better off starting with the ClassicWB OS39 and installing P96. First however, go to the Settings menu and disable FBlit and Copper. They are not required for a P96 setup and may in fact stop it from working. That will give you a starting point to work from. Then the tweaking begins, but I'm out of practice. I did the P96 pack a few years back now and would have to go back into it in detail to remember all the little tweaks I made.

15 August 2010, 22:55	#4
Megatron-UK Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 30	Ok, I've already got a working CWB OS3.9 image so I'll stick with that and add on Picasso 96. What would be the best version of Scalos to install on top of CWB OS39? I tried the latest v47.1, but it really doesn't seem to work very well (preferences tool won't load, for example).

16 August 2010, 11:08	#5
Megatron-UK Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 30	Got a working (Winuae tested so far) CWB 39 + Picasso 96 setup. I'm now going to try adding Scalos - though I'm not sure which version to go for.

16 August 2010, 12:34	#6
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I've only ever used the non-beta Scalos - 1.2d. I tried the other versions, but they seem aimed at powerful RTG Amiga's, plus they have a new config system for many things I setup in the ClassicWB packs and I struggled to get things working well.

16 August 2010, 16:18	#7
Megatron-UK Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 30	Well I've got it working now and transferred it to my CF card ready for use in the Amiga. Just on doing a restore of the games partition from a backup. I haven't overly tweaked it, here's the full install sequence I did: Install Workbench 3.1 from floppy images (SFS Partitioning and Format steps inserted here) Install OS 3.9 from mounted CD Install Boingbag 1, Boingbag 2 overlays Classic Workbench OS 3.9 standard installation Install and add "C:CMQ030" and "C:CPU burst" to S:startup-sequence Removal from WBStartup: Tinymeter, Magic Menu, Toolprefs, Amidock Re-install OS 3.9 TCP/IP Stack + Internet Tools Picasso 96 2.1c MUI 3.8 Scalos v47.1 (Install of several later MUI classes required by Scalos; all are listed when attempting to run Scalos Prefs tool) I finally booted from another, known-good, working Winuae image with the above image as a second disk, and the target Amiga CF disk as a third disk. Copy the CWB OS39 + P96 + Scalos system drive to the CF disk using your chosen tools (dopus is fine). Replace the hard files in Winuae with the CF drive and it should boot fine (some minor tweaking of startup-sequence may be necessary depending on, for example, different volume names, etc.) I'll try and attach a pic once the data restore is done, but it's just standard OS 3.9 looks with Picasso 96 and Scalos really. Optional steps - my physical hardware includes a 68030 accelerator (hence CMQ030 and the cpu tweak), and I wanted Genesis for the TCP/IP stack to use my ethernet card. The removal of the startup items is personal preference and to stop duplication of functionality with Scalos.

16 August 2010, 16:39	#8
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Well done! I bet you'll spend ages tweaking that setup to your hearts content and let me know what you think of Scalos v47.1. Just had a look at the website and realised it's been back in development again - last time I tried the latest beta was about 2006, or perhaps even earlier!!!

16 August 2010, 17:09	#9
Megatron-UK Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 30	Thanks, here's a snap of the desktop: Pretty plain for now. I want to see what it runs like on my A1200 030 once I fit my recently acquired Mediator PCI board and Radeon graphics card... I don't want it to get too resource heavy as it's primarily for games.

16 August 2010, 17:20	#10
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Hey that's pretty awesome =) Great work

16 August 2010, 17:42	#11
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,331	I used to really like the asynchronous nature of Scalos over OS3.9 but today is it really the best option? Are there other, better asynchronous workbench patches? What else does Scalos bring to the party?

16 August 2010, 19:22	#12
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	Scalos Features http://scalos.noname.fr/ Haven`t had time to read it/them yet

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17 August 2010, 04:53	#13
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Don't use popupmenu.library from Scalos, it's buggy: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...upmenu.library

17 August 2010, 10:36	#14
Megatron-UK Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 30	Thanks, I'll look at (back)dating that library.