Those old computer mags.

Raid27 · 23 January 2006, 13:37

I got a ton of old amiga computer magazines in my attic which is always great fun to read through from time to time just for the nostalgia trip.

But if I were to write an amiga-related article on the internet that requires the including of a scanned article/brief-text from one of those magazines, will it be permittable? Or are there copyright laws still in effect eventhough the magazine is now longer active?

Or to twist it a bit further: If I were to put up a scanned PDF-file of lets say the number 10 issue of a 1988 edition Amiga Computer Magazine (or similar) on the internet, will I raise hell about it?

Or are such magazines "freeware" by now?

BippyM · 23 January 2006, 13:59

Have a look at >> THIS << website and make your own mind up

Raid27 · 23 January 2006, 14:53

nice! I guess if its possible in the UK then it should be possible in Sweden too.

alexh · 23 January 2006, 16:12

Most of the Amiga magazines are now all out of print including back issues. I cannot imagine they could care less.... for the moment. Should the retro-scene become even bigger than it is now I can see them "selling" back issues in PDF format...

Figi · 23 January 2006, 22:05

To be honest, I'd like that, if the price was reasonable and the PDFs weren't just scanned jpgs but real "text as text"-pages. But the efford would be too great, I guess - even if they didn't layout the pages "by hand" back then in the 1980s but used software to do that, it'll hardly have an "export to PDF"-function. And to rebuild the mags out of scanned old issues - we know what kind of work that is!

gizmomelb · 24 January 2006, 02:09

www.zzap64.co.uk has DVDs of Amiga Power, ACE and The Games Machine (some Amiga content in the last two).

The magazines aren't classified as freeware - but most publishers of that day don't exist any more, so generally there doesn't seem to be any action taken against scan sites. However NEWSFIELD publishing is still very much alive and well and they have previously requested scans of COMMODORE FORMAT, YOUR SINCLAIR and NINTENDO SUPERPLAY to be removed from sale and online distribution.

I know that some of the editors/contributors of Amiga Power (and other mags from the 80s/90s) are still active on the zzap64.co.uk forums, so you may want to try tracking them down and asking their permission (just out of courtesy, if nothing else).

24 January 2006, 06:16

This Guy's done a good job with these mag reviews.

http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/home.htm

Raid27 · 24 January 2006, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunbot

This Guy's done a good job with these mag reviews.

http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/home.htm

Yeh..its a mixed english&german pool of reviews too. Maybe it's enough if you simply credit the original source. (unless maybe the old publisher is still active) Thanks guys! I'm gonna go do some light research bout this elsewhere. Would be fun to able to read and share the mags online

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mcbpete · 25 January 2006, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Have a look at >> THIS << website and make your own mind up

Fantastic stuff, although it seems to be early days for the site it seems to be showing amazing potential. Plus it has my favourite issue (13) on there which I haven't seen since I was about 11.

25 January 2006, 23:45

Hi guys,
There are a few other interesting sites.

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/magazines.html - Amiga magazine reviews

http://www.jgb.abelgratis.co.uk/AIM/ - Amiga magazine indices

http://www.zzap64.co.uk/ - Zzap! 64 (C64/Amiga)

http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/ - Sinclair User (ZX Spectrum)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/themicrouser/ - The Micro User (BBC)

http://www.crashonline.org.uk/ - Crash (ZX Spectrum)

Paul · 26 January 2006, 11:10

Looks like another FAQ item needs adding for Amiga mags

Raid27 · 26 January 2006, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Looks like another FAQ item needs adding for Amiga mags

Sounds like a good idea.

Paul · 26 January 2006, 12:25

New item added to FAQ
http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=magazine

pbareges · 26 January 2006, 19:07

not to mention these GREAT FRENCH RESOURCE : www.abandonware-magazines.org with almost all the pertinent Gen4 full scans waiting for you!!!!

alexh · 27 January 2006, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

New item added to FAQ
http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=magazine

http://alexh.umcus.org/thalion.txt

Tim Janssen · 30 January 2006, 16:02

I am the one who is running the Amiga Reviews site. When I started it six years ago, I tried to contact the authors of the original reviews verifying their opinion about the initiative. I only managed to trace a few of them - mainly people who have worked for Zzap! and a freelance journalist. They had no objections about it.
Since then, I assume the original author has no problems with the HTML-ised review as long his/her name is mentioned.

Selling/publishing scans or PDFs on a site is another matter, it appears.
It seems Future Publishing (publisher of Amiga Format, Amiga Power, Amiga Shopper) ordered site zzap64.co.uk to withdraw their Amiga Format scans from the site-shop.

gizmomelb · 30 January 2006, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Janssen

Selling/publishing scans or PDFs on a site is another matter, it appears.
It seems Future Publishing (publisher of Amiga Format, Amiga Power, Amiga Shopper) ordered site zzap64.co.uk to withdraw their Amiga Format scans from the site-shop.

Commodore Format, not Amiga Format - there aren't any Amiga Format scans available from zzap64.co.uk

spoUP · 14 February 2006, 16:59

a friend of mine are scanning the swedish magazine called datormagazin (dmz) for personal use. anyone interested in helping out? the more we are the faster our collections will be on our hd:s, and those old piles can be trashed.

Minuous · 15 February 2006, 15:03

Don't forget http://www.deadwoodinc.net/amigan/acar/

95 issues of the worthy "Australian Commodore and Amiga Review" (ACAR).

Photon · 15 February 2006, 21:16

zzap64 rocks my boat

I wouldn't mind at all seeing issues of Svenska Hemdator Hacking / Svenska Hemdatornytt being scanned and made available, contact me at henrike1234@hotmail.com if you've scanned any

23 January 2006, 13:37	#1
Raid27 I have a joystick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 179	Those old computer mags. I got a ton of old amiga computer magazines in my attic which is always great fun to read through from time to time just for the nostalgia trip. But if I were to write an amiga-related article on the internet that requires the including of a scanned article/brief-text from one of those magazines, will it be permittable? Or are there copyright laws still in effect eventhough the magazine is now longer active? Or to twist it a bit further: If I were to put up a scanned PDF-file of lets say the number 10 issue of a 1988 edition Amiga Computer Magazine (or similar) on the internet, will I raise hell about it? Or are such magazines "freeware" by now?

24 January 2006, 02:09	#6
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	www.zzap64.co.uk has DVDs of Amiga Power, ACE and The Games Machine (some Amiga content in the last two). The magazines aren't classified as freeware - but most publishers of that day don't exist any more, so generally there doesn't seem to be any action taken against scan sites. However NEWSFIELD publishing is still very much alive and well and they have previously requested scans of COMMODORE FORMAT, YOUR SINCLAIR and NINTENDO SUPERPLAY to be removed from sale and online distribution. I know that some of the editors/contributors of Amiga Power (and other mags from the 80s/90s) are still active on the zzap64.co.uk forums, so you may want to try tracking them down and asking their permission (just out of courtesy, if nothing else). Last edited by gizmomelb; 24 January 2006 at 02:16.

24 January 2006, 06:16	#7
gunbot Posts: n/a	Amiga Mag Site This Guy's done a good job with these mag reviews. http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/home.htm

25 January 2006, 23:45	#10
knight_beat Posts: n/a	Other mags Hi guys, There are a few other interesting sites. http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/magazines.html - Amiga magazine reviews http://www.jgb.abelgratis.co.uk/AIM/ - Amiga magazine indices http://www.zzap64.co.uk/ - Zzap! 64 (C64/Amiga) http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/ - Sinclair User (ZX Spectrum) http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/themicrouser/ - The Micro User (BBC) http://www.crashonline.org.uk/ - Crash (ZX Spectrum)

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23 January 2006, 13:59	#2
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Have a look at >> THIS << website and make your own mind up

23 January 2006, 14:53	#3
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23 January 2006, 22:05	#5
Figi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 133	To be honest, I'd like that, if the price was reasonable and the PDFs weren't just scanned jpgs but real "text as text"-pages. But the efford would be too great, I guess - even if they didn't layout the pages "by hand" back then in the 1980s but used software to do that, it'll hardly have an "export to PDF"-function. And to rebuild the mags out of scanned old issues - we know what kind of work that is!

26 January 2006, 11:10	#11
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Looks like another FAQ item needs adding for Amiga mags

26 January 2006, 12:25	#13
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	New item added to FAQ http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=magazine

26 January 2006, 19:07	#14
pbareges Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: montreal / canada Age: 47 Posts: 722	not to mention these GREAT FRENCH RESOURCE : www.abandonware-magazines.org with almost all the pertinent Gen4 full scans waiting for you!!!!

30 January 2006, 16:02	#16
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	I am the one who is running the Amiga Reviews site. When I started it six years ago, I tried to contact the authors of the original reviews verifying their opinion about the initiative. I only managed to trace a few of them - mainly people who have worked for Zzap! and a freelance journalist. They had no objections about it. Since then, I assume the original author has no problems with the HTML-ised review as long his/her name is mentioned. Selling/publishing scans or PDFs on a site is another matter, it appears. It seems Future Publishing (publisher of Amiga Format, Amiga Power, Amiga Shopper) ordered site zzap64.co.uk to withdraw their Amiga Format scans from the site-shop.

14 February 2006, 16:59	#18
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 46 Posts: 430	a friend of mine are scanning the swedish magazine called datormagazin (dmz) for personal use. anyone interested in helping out? the more we are the faster our collections will be on our hd:s, and those old piles can be trashed.

15 February 2006, 15:03	#19
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	Don't forget http://www.deadwoodinc.net/amigan/acar/ 95 issues of the worthy "Australian Commodore and Amiga Review" (ACAR).

15 February 2006, 21:16	#20
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	zzap64 rocks my boat I wouldn't mind at all seeing issues of Svenska Hemdator Hacking / Svenska Hemdatornytt being scanned and made available, contact me at henrike1234@hotmail.com if you've scanned any

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