REQ: short names of crackergroups? - Page 29

DH · 26 May 2009, 20:53

Seems to be the same with 2000 A.D. (2KAD) Nothing found with that abbreviation. I wonder where the abbreviation came from in Bippy's + Exotica lists.

PandMonium · 26 May 2009, 21:38

No idea too

there are lots of sets using (wrongly i guess) the abbreviation or variations of the group name (in publisher field there are 200+ sets using either "2000 A.D." / "2000AD" / "2000 AD"), maybe StingRay knows something

mai · 26 May 2009, 21:51

This time a proof for the group "Anthrox = ATX".
Screenshot taken from:
Caesar Deluxe (1993)(Impressions)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr ATX][t +1 2KAD][bootable]

DH · 26 May 2009, 21:56

I can understand the huge problem the renamer's have, on one demo I have the main logo reads '2000AD' then further down in the presents part it's '2000 AD' and on another demo it's '2000 A.D.' what a mess, they certainly weren't consistent with there logo or name

So I guess it's take your pick at which ever one seems appropriate and the rest can be placed into alternative names for them. My preference would be '2000 A.D.' It just looks right

PandMonium · 26 May 2009, 22:37

yes, my preference too.
its also the name used here: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=261
i think we should try to use "2000 A.D." in all dats (since there is no proof for the abbreviation) and the other possibilities be also stored but not used in dats

edit: thanks mai, one less to go. ATX is used 317 times in amiga dats

Methanoid · 27 May 2009, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

This time a proof for the group "Anthrox = ATX".
Screenshot taken from:
Caesar Deluxe (1993)(Impressions)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr ATX][t +1 2KAD][bootable]

trivia time:

Supplied by B.H.S. - that was what we put when I supplied titles to ATX - a play on my handle and those of Hydro and another ATX member and on the name of the UK store....

mr_0rga5m · 27 May 2009, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

trivia time:

Supplied by B.H.S. - that was what we put when I supplied titles to ATX - a play on my handle and those of Hydro and another ATX member and on the name of the UK store....

Could you tell us more please ?

I know BHS was 'British Home Stores' (now modernised to just Bhs) but the rest im interested in.

rygar · 27 May 2009, 17:19

Nice info about 2000 A.D. group:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=261

Methanoid · 28 May 2009, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_0rga5m

Could you tell us more please ?

I know BHS was 'British Home Stores' (now modernised to just Bhs) but the rest im interested in.

Just Beast-Hydro-Sprog!! - cos they didnt want anyone knowing I was the actual supplier. Didnt want me poached to another crew. As it was since I refused to join a certain "legendary" group they decided it was easier and cheaper to grass me up. One honest member of that group had the decency to tell me but not until after I'd been closed down...

mai · 31 May 2009, 22:32

Quote:

abbreviation in idoru list, pic would be nice

Screenshot taken from:
Paramax (1991)(Kingsoft)[cr AFL][t +3 AFL]

Galahad/FLT · 31 May 2009, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Just Beast-Hydro-Sprog!! - cos they didnt want anyone knowing I was the actual supplier. Didnt want me poached to another crew. As it was since I refused to join a certain "legendary" group they decided it was easier and cheaper to grass me up. One honest member of that group had the decency to tell me but not until after I'd been closed down...

I'm going to have a stab at that group being one I was in, and the grass being someone in Sweden?

PandMonium · 01 June 2009, 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Screenshot taken from:
Paramax (1991)(Kingsoft)[cr AFL][t +3 AFL]

thanks

any of you know if AFL (Alpha Flight) was also present in C64 and Atari ST scene? i hope so

Methanoid · 01 June 2009, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

I'm going to have a stab at that group being one I was in, and the grass being someone in Sweden?

Wot? JBM? Couldnt possibly comment!!!

StingRay · 01 June 2009, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

any of you know if AFL (Alpha Flight) was also present in C64 and Atari ST scene?

AFL started on C64 and later had an Amiga section. They never were on Atari though.

Galahad/FLT · 01 June 2009, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Wot? JBM? Couldnt possibly comment!!!

And i'm guessing either N.O.M.A.D. or Splatt! did the decent thing.

PandMonium · 01 June 2009, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

AFL started on C64 and later had an Amiga section. They never were on Atari though.

Ok then, thank you

"AFL" is used in Amiga and C64 dats tons of times, "Alpha Flight" is used only once in Amiga and i suppose it is the same group but the renamer didin't knew about the abbreviation

Code:

Commodore Amiga - Docs:
Trilogy Docs Disk 05 (1990)(Trilogy)[m Alpha Flight]

i just asked about this because there are sets in Atari ST dats using "Alpha Flight" too and i was expecting it was the same group, then it must be a different group with the same name or some error / other explanation

Code:

Atari ST - Educational - [ST]:
Code Facile (1989)(Coktel Vision)(fr)[cr Alpha Flight]
Labyrinthe de l'Errare, Le (1989)(Retz)[cr Alpha Flight]

Atari ST - Games - [ST]:
Falcon v1.00 (1988)(Mirrorsoft)[cr Alpha Flight][one disk]
Labyrinthe d'Orthophus, Le (1989)(Retz)(fr)[cr Alpha Flight]
Meurtre a Venise (1989)(Cobra Soft)(fr)[cr Alpha Flight]
Silk Worm (1988)(Tecmo)[cr Alpha Flight]

StingRay · 01 June 2009, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

i just asked about this because there are sets in Atari ST dats using "Alpha Flight" too and i was expecting it was the same group, then it must be a different group with the same name or some error / other explanation

The Atari Alpha Flight has nothing to do with the C64/Amiga Alpha Flight, it's a different group.

mai · 01 June 2009, 19:53

BJ abbreviation seems to be invalid, used only once in current Amiga games dat.
I am not able to find such abbreviation in this set:
Pawn, The v2.2 (1986)(Rainbird)[cr BJ]
Are there another sets to check?
Full name for "BJ" is "The Banana Joe Corporation", meanly known from the C64 scene.

Next information is probably useful for the database, but has nothing to do with abbreviations(off topic)

"Taiffun" should be "Taifun".
Also used once in current Amiga games dat.

"Gordh - Badmon" should be "Gordh - Badamon"
screenshot taken from:
Panzer Battles v1.2 (1991)(SSG)[h Gordh - Badmon]
I have also checked:
TV Sports Boxing (1991)(Cinemaware)[cr ATX][h Gordh - Badmon][v Saddam-Saddam II]

PandMonium · 01 June 2009, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

BJ abbreviation seems to be invalid, used only once in current Amiga games dat.
I am not able to find such abbreviation in this set:
Pawn, The v2.2 (1986)(Rainbird)[cr BJ]
Are there another sets to check?
Full name for "BJ" is "The Banana Joe Corporation", meanly known from the C64 scene.

Nop, only used in "Pawn, The v2.2 (1986)(Rainbird)[cr BJ]", is this The Banana Joe Corporation some scene group that Banana Joe started or something? there was a "Banana Joe" in C64 like you said and showed in 2nd shot, don't know anything more about him ( http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=16480 ) or this group

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Next information is probably useful for the database, but has nothing to do with abbreviations(off topic)

"Taiffun" should be "Taifun".
Also used once in current Amiga games dat.

Nice

There is only one more set with "Taifun" in TOSEC and it is "Supercode (19xx)(CP Verlag)[cr Taifun]" from Commodore C64 - Games - [D64] datfile, can't find it/him on c64 scene db, any change of those 2 being the same group? or maybe a scener?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

"Gordh - Badmon" should be "Gordh - Badamon"
screenshot taken from:
Panzer Battles v1.2 (1991)(SSG)[h Gordh - Badmon]
I have also checked:
TV Sports Boxing (1991)(Cinemaware)[cr ATX][h Gordh - Badmon][v Saddam-Saddam II]

Ok nice catch, "Gordh" and "Badamon" are only used 2 times.
I will take that they were 2 groups, any of you know if they were just 2 guys (sceners) instead of scene groups? Did they work cooperatively? (it could be "Gordh + Badamon"

Edit: Also from your 3rd shot i can see "Fix Limited", i suppose it means that "Fix Ltd" group full name is "Fix Limited" right? Fix Ltd is used 38 times against 0 of Fix Limited and just wanted to know if they really used "Fix Ltd" or the renamer just took the liberty to abbreviate their name

mai · 01 June 2009, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Edit: Also from your 3rd shot i can see "Fix Limited", i suppose it means that "Fix Ltd" group full name is "Fix Limited" right? Fix Ltd is used 38 times against 0 of Fix Limited and just wanted to know if they really used "Fix Ltd" or the renamer just took the liberty to abbreviate their name

Proof:

26 May 2009, 21:51	#563
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	This time a proof for the group "Anthrox = ATX". Screenshot taken from: Caesar Deluxe (1993)(Impressions)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr ATX][t +1 2KAD][bootable] Last edited by mai; 09 September 2019 at 23:12.

01 June 2009, 19:53	#578
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	some information BJ abbreviation seems to be invalid, used only once in current Amiga games dat. I am not able to find such abbreviation in this set: Pawn, The v2.2 (1986)(Rainbird)[cr BJ] Are there another sets to check? Full name for "BJ" is "The Banana Joe Corporation", meanly known from the C64 scene. Next information is probably useful for the database, but has nothing to do with abbreviations(off topic) "Taiffun" should be "Taifun". Also used once in current Amiga games dat. "Gordh - Badmon" should be "Gordh - Badamon" screenshot taken from: Panzer Battles v1.2 (1991)(SSG)[h Gordh - Badmon] I have also checked: TV Sports Boxing (1991)(Cinemaware)[cr ATX][h Gordh - Badmon][v Saddam-Saddam II] Last edited by mai; 09 September 2019 at 23:12.

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26 May 2009, 20:53	#561
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Seems to be the same with 2000 A.D. (2KAD) Nothing found with that abbreviation. I wonder where the abbreviation came from in Bippy's + Exotica lists.

26 May 2009, 21:38	#562
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	No idea too there are lots of sets using (wrongly i guess) the abbreviation or variations of the group name (in publisher field there are 200+ sets using either "2000 A.D." / "2000AD" / "2000 AD"), maybe StingRay knows something

26 May 2009, 21:56	#564
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	I can understand the huge problem the renamer's have, on one demo I have the main logo reads '2000AD' then further down in the presents part it's '2000 AD' and on another demo it's '2000 A.D.' what a mess, they certainly weren't consistent with there logo or name So I guess it's take your pick at which ever one seems appropriate and the rest can be placed into alternative names for them. My preference would be '2000 A.D.' It just looks right

26 May 2009, 22:37	#565
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	yes, my preference too. its also the name used here: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=261 i think we should try to use "2000 A.D." in all dats (since there is no proof for the abbreviation) and the other possibilities be also stored but not used in dats edit: thanks mai, one less to go. ATX is used 317 times in amiga dats

27 May 2009, 17:19	#568
rygar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,295	Nice info about 2000 A.D. group: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=261

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