HID2AMI - *Any* HID mouse and HID gamepad to Amiga adaptor/converter - Page 2

idrougge · 11 January 2019, 22:04

How much do the components cost? Previous mouse adapter solutions have used cheap, easy-to-solder, PIC microcontrollers.

sampedenawa · 13 January 2019, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

How much do the components cost? Previous mouse adapter solutions have used cheap, easy-to-solder, PIC microcontrollers.

None of those cheap, easy-to-solder PIC are able to cope with HID peripherals.
What you have in mind is a bare PS2->Amiga adaptor, which is a complete different thing.
Besides, the total cost of components between the two is, nowadays, almost identical.

Eriond · 15 January 2019, 20:54

I would pay 15€ for option 1, the fw/license. That's because I like to build my own hardware, and adjust it physically so it suits my wishes/needs. But I also acknowledge the effort you have put into the firmware, hence the price tag.

sampedenawa · 16 January 2019, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cav

Id be happy to pay €15-20 for the DIY kits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eriond

I would pay 15€ for option 1, the fw/license. That's because I like to build my own hardware, and adjust it physically so it suits my wishes/needs. But I also acknowledge the effort you have put into the firmware, hence the price tag.

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and appreciate the effort !

Quick update about the development status:

- yesterday I released (to myself

) fw version 1.5.2beta, which means:
- support for any HID Mouse (position + 3 buttons)
- support for any (*) USB 1.1 HID Joy/Gamepad (Analog, Digital or both) with auto mapping of first 6 buttons on Amiga 1-2 joy buttons
- support for any (**) USB 2.0 HID Joy/Gamepads (Analog, Digital or both) with auto mapping of first 6 buttons on Amiga 1-2 joy buttons

(*) Up to now, tested with Logitech Wingman Pro, ThrustMaster Wireless Dual Trigger, Thrustmaster firestorm digital
(**) Up to now, tested with some different Chinese PS3/PC clone gamepads

I am planning to build a 1.5.2 "final" within next weekend, which I think it could be released to the public for the first enthusiast users who'd dare to try.

I would like to add support fro xbox 360/PC pads as well (it is a little bit more tricky, because these pads are not HID compliant, so a dedicated decoding scheme is required), but I will postpone it to next fw version.

Besides, xbox-like pads need in general more supply power than others, and it could happen (I still need to verify) that the Amiga Joy port would not be able to supply an adequate amount of current, so at the end developing a driver for such a controller could be totally useless

Now the interesting news: in a few days I should manage to build up a minimal page on github with schematics, gerbers and instructions.
I should also have the first few DIY kit ready, so keep an eye here, if you are interested, for the announcement of availabilty.

sampedenawa · 20 January 2019, 11:07

Just a quick post, to inform who may be interested that "times has come" :dance:

I think I reached a sufficiently stable firmware release, ready to be spread to the public, so ..

I put up a github page, where you can find all relevant info:

https://github.com/EmberHeavyIndustries/HID2AMI

I would kindly ask to everyone, but in particular to English mother tongue visitors, to give me a feedback about the above, in terms of both readability, clearness and correct management of the English language (which is one of my weak points, I know).
Don't be afraid to hurt me with comments and criticism.

About HID2AMI board, then:

At the moment I have no availability of complete boards (apart of my two first builds, which I am keeping for myself, and another one which I would like to give to the first one who asked from the Italian forum where all this started).

I am planning to build a few (very few) boards starting from next weekend, but I can' guarantee anything

Starting from mid-end next week I should be able to set up more or less 10 DYI kit, so anyone could be interested keep an eye here on the forum, and I will announce the availability soon. Please do not start requesting now, wait my announcement. Thanks.

For whoever else would like to build everything from himself... you can start right now: go to github, read instructions and go !

Any comments here really welcomed. Thanks !

sampedenawa · 21 January 2019, 13:19

Quick daily update:

released fw version 1.6.0 with

- Added support for MS peripherals;
- Added support for XBOX 360 Gamepad clones

- Added support for MS Intellimouse

Find the whole story on https://github.com/EmberHeavyIndustries/HID2AMI

ExtremeWays · 21 January 2019, 23:48

Thanks for your work on this sampedenawa. This looks like a fantastic board.

Your English on the git page is excellent. It's easy to read, has some humour, and gets the point across. Very nice indeed!

sampedenawa · 22 January 2019, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeWays

Thanks for your work on this sampedenawa. This looks like a fantastic board.

Your English on the git page is excellent. It's easy to read, has some humour, and gets the point across. Very nice indeed!

Thank you very much, very kind of you revising my page and appreciating my work

Cav · 22 January 2019, 20:50

Awesome! Really looking forward for the DIY kits!

sampedenawa · 22 January 2019, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cav

Awesome! Really looking forward for the DIY kits!

"Knock on wood" (is this the correct idiom in English ?) .. I am still missing DB9 and USB connectors, with forecast delivery within Friday.
Then I should have 6-8 DIY kits ready at last !

Marlon_ · 22 January 2019, 23:05

I would be interested in a kit without db9 and usb connectors

nexus · 23 January 2019, 03:27

i would like 1-2 kits

Hewitson · 23 January 2019, 04:06

I would probably be interested if the "app" didn't have stupid restrictions placed on it.

nexus · 23 January 2019, 05:15

this uses a rasp pi https://haxor.fi/using-wireless-blue...-amiga-or-c64/
and is wireless
uses joyemu

Hewitson · 23 January 2019, 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

this uses a rasp pi https://haxor.fi/using-wireless-blue...-amiga-or-c64/
and is wireless
uses joyemu

Lol... A Raspberry Pi for a fucking joystick emulator??? Wow. Any competent electronic engineer (including myself) could design this with an ATTiny or equivalent PIC in minutes.

sampedenawa · 23 January 2019, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon_

I would be interested in a kit without db9 and usb connectors

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

i would like 1-2 kits

Give me few days, early next week I will post here how many kits I have available (whew .. I did not suppose such an interest for this project of mine)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

this uses a rasp pi https://haxor.fi/using-wireless-blue...-amiga-or-c64/
and is wireless
uses joyemu

This is a different approach (thou it is an interesting project too): it aims to directly interface the BT portion of the controller; HID2AMI aims to manage any standard controller through its standard (usb) interface.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson

I would probably be interested if the "app" didn't have stupid restrictions placed on it.

It could be questionable the fact whether the restrictions I placed over the App are stupid or not.

All I can say is that I placed that kind of protection because I am tired to put lots of hours of work into a particular project, share it open, spread the info, only to see it grabbed few days later from some "smart guy" and sold on ebay in commercial quantities.

I see it plain simple:
- If you like the project, this is it.
- If you do not agree with my policy (and I respect your position), I am confident you will happily survive without HID2AMI.
- If you can't live without HID2AMI but don't like my policy: make yourself a compatible App: I released hardware schematics open, so you have all infos.

Marlon_ · 23 January 2019, 12:29

I intend to mount mine internally on the mouse port header on the A1200 motherboard and install a pin header for a mountable USB-socket instead. Hence the sockets not being needed in the kit for me. =)

sampedenawa · 23 January 2019, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon_

I intend to mount mine internally on the mouse port header on the A1200 motherboard and install a pin header for a mountable USB-socket instead. Hence the sockets not being needed in the kit for me. =)

In this case I could make you the first one ambassador of HID2AMI outside Italy

Would you be interested into "DeLuxe" or rather "Lite" version ?

(Explain: "Lite version" (see it here- the yellow one https://i.ibb.co/CbP1Wjb/01.jpg) does not have mosfets on outputs, but they are directly driven by uP GPIOS.

Please be aware that I should be ready to ship not before next monday.

Send me an email with details, I'll check for shipping costs and options.

Marlon_ · 23 January 2019, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampedenawa

In this case I could make you the first one ambassador of HID2AMI outside Italy

Would you be interested into "DeLuxe" or rather "Lite" version ?

(Explain: "Lite version" (see it here- the yellow one https://i.ibb.co/CbP1Wjb/01.jpg) does not have mosfets on outputs, but they are directly driven by uP GPIOS.

Please be aware that I should be ready to ship not before next monday.

Send me an email with details, I'll check for shipping costs and options.

Is there a difference in price between them? Otherwise I'd got for the DeLuxe version.

sampedenawa · 23 January 2019, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon_

Is there a difference in price between them? Otherwise I'd got for the DeLuxe version.

The mere cost of Mosfets .. let's say 1,5 Eur ...
It is rather a matter of power consumption (slightly less on Lite)

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11 January 2019, 22:04	#21
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	How much do the components cost? Previous mouse adapter solutions have used cheap, easy-to-solder, PIC microcontrollers.

15 January 2019, 20:54	#23
Eriond Happy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 101	I would pay 15€ for option 1, the fw/license. That's because I like to build my own hardware, and adjust it physically so it suits my wishes/needs. But I also acknowledge the effort you have put into the firmware, hence the price tag.

20 January 2019, 11:07	#25
sampedenawa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: IT Posts: 176	Just a quick post, to inform who may be interested that "times has come" :dance: I think I reached a sufficiently stable firmware release, ready to be spread to the public, so .. I put up a github page, where you can find all relevant info: https://github.com/EmberHeavyIndustries/HID2AMI I would kindly ask to everyone, but in particular to English mother tongue visitors, to give me a feedback about the above, in terms of both readability, clearness and correct management of the English language (which is one of my weak points, I know). Don't be afraid to hurt me with comments and criticism. About HID2AMI board, then: At the moment I have no availability of complete boards (apart of my two first builds, which I am keeping for myself, and another one which I would like to give to the first one who asked from the Italian forum where all this started). I am planning to build a few (very few) boards starting from next weekend, but I can' guarantee anything Starting from mid-end next week I should be able to set up more or less 10 DYI kit, so anyone could be interested keep an eye here on the forum, and I will announce the availability soon. Please do not start requesting now, wait my announcement. Thanks. For whoever else would like to build everything from himself... you can start right now: go to github, read instructions and go ! Any comments here really welcomed. Thanks !

21 January 2019, 13:19	#26
sampedenawa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: IT Posts: 176	Quick daily update: released fw version 1.6.0 with - Added support for MS peripherals; - Added support for XBOX 360 Gamepad clones - Added support for MS Intellimouse Find the whole story on https://github.com/EmberHeavyIndustries/HID2AMI

21 January 2019, 23:48	#27
ExtremeWays Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Brisbane / Australia Posts: 13	Thanks for your work on this sampedenawa. This looks like a fantastic board. Your English on the git page is excellent. It's easy to read, has some humour, and gets the point across. Very nice indeed!

22 January 2019, 20:50	#29
Cav Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Sundsvall Posts: 37	Awesome! Really looking forward for the DIY kits!

22 January 2019, 23:05	#31
Marlon_ AmigaDev.com Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 625	I would be interested in a kit without db9 and usb connectors

23 January 2019, 03:27	#32
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	i would like 1-2 kits

23 January 2019, 04:06	#33
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,772	I would probably be interested if the "app" didn't have stupid restrictions placed on it.

23 January 2019, 05:15	#34
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	this uses a rasp pi https://haxor.fi/using-wireless-blue...-amiga-or-c64/ and is wireless uses joyemu

23 January 2019, 12:29	#37
Marlon_ AmigaDev.com Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 625	I intend to mount mine internally on the mouse port header on the A1200 motherboard and install a pin header for a mountable USB-socket instead. Hence the sockets not being needed in the kit for me. =)

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