Mediator TX & Radeon 9200

Sallinen · 29 August 2009, 10:12

Hi!

I have an Mediator TX & Radeon 9200 PCI.

When I hit "Test" button in Picasso96 Modes the Amiga freezes!?

I'm using the latest Radeon driver (1.7)

Anyone with same problems? Any solution?

AmigaOS is fresh install of 3.9 with BB1 & BB2 applied.

Bamiga2002 · 29 August 2009, 14:40

I'm not even able to set up any screenmodes! Double-clicking on the radeon monitor-icon WB freezes within seconds. Can i have the Voodoo3 P96 WB screen running at the same time when trying to activate radeon?

I've emailed Elbox about this problem. I've read that with an older v1.4b driver of radeon.card it should work OK.

Sallinen · 29 August 2009, 14:55

Happen to have the older driver somewhere?
I would like to try it.
I'm trying now with 1.7 driver.

Bamiga2002 · 29 August 2009, 21:51

Searched all my MM_CD-ups/MediatorUps archives and couldn't find it. Maybe Elbox will send it or someone here has it...?

prowler · 29 August 2009, 22:33

Hi Bamiga,

Have a look at the Radeon 9200 Drivers thread.

Maybe AlfaRomeo can supply the driver you require?

Bamiga2002 · 29 August 2009, 22:50

PM sent.

AlfaRomeo · 30 August 2009, 21:43

As I already wrote in my PM to Bamiga that I only have the radeon.card version 1.7 too.
Already sent my (modified) radeon.card version 1.7 to Sallinen, maybe he can solve his problem with the Radeon 9200 as it looks much like the problem I had

Sallinen · 31 August 2009, 10:44

Didn't help - Amiga still freezes when trying to test screenmodes with Picasso96Modes

Smiley · 31 August 2009, 11:21

You need to email Elbox and they will send you the 1.4b version of radeon.card

Sallinen · 31 August 2009, 13:24

I submitted Radeon's BIOS to Elbox and they'll see if they're able to hack the driver to work with that specific card/bios combination.

prowler · 31 August 2009, 18:42

They've actually agreed to do this?

That's great news

, because, in the past, Elbox have not exactly been noted for offering the best customer support.

Sallinen · 31 August 2009, 19:01

Well, they basicly sent the bios to the driver coder who will have a look at it and see what might cause the freezing with that radeon bios revision.. Lets hope its fixable with updated driver.

Bamiga2002 · 31 August 2009, 21:51

How can you extract the bios?

prowler · 31 August 2009, 21:58

If it's a flashable BIOS, you should be able to extract it using the BIOS flashing utility. These utilities usually give you a method of saving your old BIOS to a file when updating it, so that it can be restored in case the updated BIOS introduces new bugs which affect the running of your software.

Edit 1: You don't actually need a BIOS update in order to dump your old BIOS to a file using the BIOS flashing utility.

Edit 2: The BIOS flashing utility might be a PC DOS utility. You may have to fit the graphics card in a PCI slot in your PC and run the utility from a bootable floppy DOS disk. Use a FreeDOS, OSR2 or Win98 boot disk so that you will be able to write the image to a FAT32 partition (though not an NTFS one) on your hard disk.

Bamiga2002 · 31 August 2009, 22:16

OK thanks prowler

.

prowler · 01 September 2009, 00:26

Hi Bamiga,

I've uploaded ATI RADEON 9200SE 128 DDR BIOS version 008.015.041.001 to the Zone for you.

This archive contains the BIOS ROM file and ATI Flash BIOS utility, together with a 32-bit DOS extender and readme file. In fact, all the files you will need to add to a DOS boot disk in order to run the utility.

I have also uploaded a 7zip self-extracting archive containing the ATI Flash BIOS utility Version 3.39, which may be the latest version.

FYI, I found the files on this page:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20bios.htm

Warning: Be careful with these utilities. Remember that you only wish to dump your existing ROM BIOS. Do not choose any option which will overwrite your BIOS unless you have decided this is what you wish to do. If in doubt, write-protect the BIOS (if there is a jumper for this on the card) until you are sure that the utility actually does provide a ROM dump option.

Edit: the ROM file should be small enough to write back to the floppy boot disk. You probably won't even require a hard disk in the machine you use for this.

AlfaRomeo · 01 September 2009, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

They've actually agreed to do this?

That's great news

, because, in the past, Elbox have not exactly been noted for offering the best customer support.

I already PM Sllinen telling to send her bios dump to Elbox, I did the same and at the time when I had same problem and they where very helpful and solve my problem very fast. Great customer support

prowler · 01 September 2009, 20:24

That's good to know, Alfa!

Thanks for that.

Bamiga2002 · 09 September 2009, 23:51

I was able to dump my Radeon 9250SE bios and sent it to Elbox.
Now we wait...

prowler · 09 September 2009, 23:55

Hi Bamiga,

Was it possible using the tools I uploaded? (Just for reference.)

29 August 2009, 10:12	#1
Sallinen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London / United Kingdom Posts: 102	Mediator TX & Radeon 9200 Hi! I have an Mediator TX & Radeon 9200 PCI. When I hit "Test" button in Picasso96 Modes the Amiga freezes!? I'm using the latest Radeon driver (1.7) Anyone with same problems? Any solution? AmigaOS is fresh install of 3.9 with BB1 & BB2 applied.

31 August 2009, 21:58	#14
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	If it's a flashable BIOS, you should be able to extract it using the BIOS flashing utility. These utilities usually give you a method of saving your old BIOS to a file when updating it, so that it can be restored in case the updated BIOS introduces new bugs which affect the running of your software. Edit 1: You don't actually need a BIOS update in order to dump your old BIOS to a file using the BIOS flashing utility. Edit 2: The BIOS flashing utility might be a PC DOS utility. You may have to fit the graphics card in a PCI slot in your PC and run the utility from a bootable floppy DOS disk. Use a FreeDOS, OSR2 or Win98 boot disk so that you will be able to write the image to a FAT32 partition (though not an NTFS one) on your hard disk. Last edited by prowler; 31 August 2009 at 22:16.

01 September 2009, 00:26	#16
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Bamiga, I've uploaded ATI RADEON 9200SE 128 DDR BIOS version 008.015.041.001 to the Zone for you. This archive contains the BIOS ROM file and ATI Flash BIOS utility, together with a 32-bit DOS extender and readme file. In fact, all the files you will need to add to a DOS boot disk in order to run the utility. I have also uploaded a 7zip self-extracting archive containing the ATI Flash BIOS utility Version 3.39, which may be the latest version. FYI, I found the files on this page: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20bios.htm Warning: Be careful with these utilities. Remember that you only wish to dump your existing ROM BIOS. Do not choose any option which will overwrite your BIOS unless you have decided this is what you wish to do. If in doubt, write-protect the BIOS (if there is a jumper for this on the card) until you are sure that the utility actually does provide a ROM dump option. Edit: the ROM file should be small enough to write back to the floppy boot disk. You probably won't even require a hard disk in the machine you use for this. Last edited by prowler; 01 September 2009 at 00:40.

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29 August 2009, 14:40	#2
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	I'm not even able to set up any screenmodes! Double-clicking on the radeon monitor-icon WB freezes within seconds. Can i have the Voodoo3 P96 WB screen running at the same time when trying to activate radeon? I've emailed Elbox about this problem. I've read that with an older v1.4b driver of radeon.card it should work OK.

29 August 2009, 14:55	#3
Sallinen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London / United Kingdom Posts: 102	Happen to have the older driver somewhere? I would like to try it. I'm trying now with 1.7 driver.

29 August 2009, 21:51	#4
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	Searched all my MM_CD-ups/MediatorUps archives and couldn't find it. Maybe Elbox will send it or someone here has it...?

29 August 2009, 22:33	#5
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Bamiga, Have a look at the Radeon 9200 Drivers thread. Maybe AlfaRomeo can supply the driver you require?

29 August 2009, 22:50	#6
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	PM sent.

30 August 2009, 21:43	#7
AlfaRomeo A1200 040 SAM440EP 667 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lisbon / Portugal Posts: 850	As I already wrote in my PM to Bamiga that I only have the radeon.card version 1.7 too. Already sent my (modified) radeon.card version 1.7 to Sallinen, maybe he can solve his problem with the Radeon 9200 as it looks much like the problem I had

31 August 2009, 10:44	#8
Sallinen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London / United Kingdom Posts: 102	Didn't help - Amiga still freezes when trying to test screenmodes with Picasso96Modes

31 August 2009, 11:21	#9
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	You need to email Elbox and they will send you the 1.4b version of radeon.card

31 August 2009, 13:24	#10
Sallinen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London / United Kingdom Posts: 102	I submitted Radeon's BIOS to Elbox and they'll see if they're able to hack the driver to work with that specific card/bios combination.

31 August 2009, 18:42	#11
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	They've actually agreed to do this? That's great news , because, in the past, Elbox have not exactly been noted for offering the best customer support.

31 August 2009, 19:01	#12
Sallinen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London / United Kingdom Posts: 102	Well, they basicly sent the bios to the driver coder who will have a look at it and see what might cause the freezing with that radeon bios revision.. Lets hope its fixable with updated driver.

31 August 2009, 21:51	#13
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	How can you extract the bios?

31 August 2009, 22:16	#15
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	OK thanks prowler .

01 September 2009, 20:24	#18
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	That's good to know, Alfa! Thanks for that.

09 September 2009, 23:51	#19
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 45 Posts: 3,210	I was able to dump my Radeon 9250SE bios and sent it to Elbox. Now we wait...

09 September 2009, 23:55	#20
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Bamiga, Was it possible using the tools I uploaded? (Just for reference.)

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