Dark Seed without flicker?

MrZammler · 23 December 2005, 17:28

Is there a way to play dark seed with whdload without flicker? Is it normal to flicker even through PIV's scandoubler/ff?

Thanks

Chain · 23 December 2005, 18:28

im using 100Hz tv, absolutely flicker free gameplay

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Ironclaw · 23 December 2005, 22:45

The walkthrough..... has nothing to do with the topic... more than it's the same game... but just wanted people to know

http://recordedamigagames.ath.cx/mod...ndex.php?id=34

No flickering in Winuae atleast.

MrZammler · 24 December 2005, 09:21

Tried the whdload cd32 version... no flicker but apparently needs a pad to work... damn!

Ironclaw · 24 December 2005, 12:04

Yep, the CD32 version requires a pad, but you Simon the Sorcerer CD32 can be played with pad and mouse thanks to a little tool starting in the startup-sequence. If I bothered to, I could have used that tool from Simon with Darkseed and thereby play Darksdeed CD32 with a mouse.

MrZammler · 24 December 2005, 18:30

Interesting, but I guess this tool would only apply to OS-compliant games, whdload would kill it ;-)

Ironclaw · 24 December 2005, 19:02

Not if you start the tool before you start whdload

MrZammler · 24 December 2005, 21:14

And the tool's name is.... ? ;-)

Ironclaw · 25 December 2005, 11:44

cd sys:
SetPatch QUIET
;run >NIL: sys:cd2xspeed ON
run >NIL: sys:joymouse accel createkeys
run >NIL: sys:runit2
endcli >NIL:

So "joymouse accel createkeys" I guess.

kriz · 25 December 2005, 12:46

http://de4.aminet.net/util/mouse/JoyMouse.lha

its joymouse

Ironclaw · 25 December 2005, 13:08

Of course it is

MrZammler · 25 December 2005, 19:48

Hi, sorry no go. Still the same behaviour. Dont think there is anything to do with this, darkseed seems to need the extra pad keys.

Ironclaw · 25 December 2005, 20:11

Nope, should work, a friend of mine used that tool in other games long ago, he told me.

MrZammler · 27 December 2005, 11:50

@Ironclaw

2 questions: the joymouse thing, just seems to make the joystick behave as a mouse (i.e. move the cursor around when in WB). How would that help with a game that requires a cd32 pad? Darkseed CD32 already uses the joystick, but cant go further cause it seems to need some extra buttons.

Next, whdload kills everything running (including wb) and gives control to the games of the hardware bypassing anything running up to the whdload start. Can the joymouse utility survive this?

Ironclaw · 27 December 2005, 16:25

If you have like me a mouse with 3 buttons and a middle scroll + 2 extra buttons, one on each side = a mouse with 7 buttons in total.. that's enough..

scroll up and down = 2 keys.

Darkseed only needs 3 keys: left mouse to click stuff, right mouse to toggle action and middle mouse to skip the time... so it's perfect with a mouse for darkseed using that tool... you dont need all the cd32 gamepad buttons in that game.

Ironclaw · 27 December 2005, 16:31

About using the tool with with whdload version of darkseed, I don't know. I just had the game installed on a HD and running without whdload... I have never play games from hd using whload, NEVER... so I don't have that problem...

So why not play darkseed without whdload?

MrZammler · 27 December 2005, 16:45

Hi Ironclaw,

Well, mainly because I dont have the cd32 version... (got the whdload one from magix site). I'll try and find the original one and give it one more go. Thanks.

Zetr0 · 27 December 2005, 22:29

there is of course always the dreaded ebay for a cd32 controller or an old friend you dont mind beating the hell out of ?

after all... its a cd32 controller and its worth it..... kinda..... have you tried an old PC GAME port based controller with dongle to convert it to amiga, I did this sooooo many moons ago i forgot what year it was in... lest be said decade...

heres hoping you some luck, even though the game flopped and was considered poor i always had a softspot for the game known as dark seed.

One thing IronClaw mentions is using a PC mouse with the amiga, you will need a cocolino available from vesalia.de or amigakit.co.uk thus giving you access to cheap ps2 3+ button mice

MrZammler · 28 December 2005, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

there is of course always the dreaded ebay for a cd32 controller or an old friend you dont mind beating the hell out of ?

after all... its a cd32 controller and its worth it..... kinda..... have you tried an old PC GAME port based controller with dongle to convert it to amiga, I did this sooooo many moons ago i forgot what year it was in... lest be said decade...

Well, I did knew a friend who had a cd32... Would try to get the whole thing instead of just the pad, though

But anyway, yeah, I guess I will be searching for one.

Thanks

Ironclaw · 28 December 2005, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrZammler

Hi Ironclaw,

Well, mainly because I dont have the cd32 version... (got the whdload one from magix site). I'll try and find the original one and give it one more go. Thanks.

Why not just download the floppy version and install that?, neither the CD32 nor the floppy version has a hd installer, but all you have to do is copy the files to a harddrive, that's what I do.... no hd installer or whload is needed for most dos games (not nodos disks)

Just get the floppy version of planetemu.net, copy all the files to a harddrive and play i with the mouse.

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23 December 2005, 22:45	#3
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	The walkthrough..... has nothing to do with the topic... more than it's the same game... but just wanted people to know http://recordedamigagames.ath.cx/mod...ndex.php?id=34 No flickering in Winuae atleast.

24 December 2005, 09:21	#4
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	Tried the whdload cd32 version... no flicker but apparently needs a pad to work... damn!

24 December 2005, 12:04	#5
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Yep, the CD32 version requires a pad, but you Simon the Sorcerer CD32 can be played with pad and mouse thanks to a little tool starting in the startup-sequence. If I bothered to, I could have used that tool from Simon with Darkseed and thereby play Darksdeed CD32 with a mouse.

24 December 2005, 18:30	#6
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	Interesting, but I guess this tool would only apply to OS-compliant games, whdload would kill it ;-)

24 December 2005, 19:02	#7
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Not if you start the tool before you start whdload

24 December 2005, 21:14	#8
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	And the tool's name is.... ? ;-)

25 December 2005, 11:44	#9
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	cd sys: SetPatch QUIET ;run >NIL: sys:cd2xspeed ON run >NIL: sys:joymouse accel createkeys run >NIL: sys:runit2 endcli >NIL: So "joymouse accel createkeys" I guess.

25 December 2005, 12:46	#10
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	http://de4.aminet.net/util/mouse/JoyMouse.lha its joymouse

25 December 2005, 13:08	#11
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Of course it is

25 December 2005, 19:48	#12
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	Hi, sorry no go. Still the same behaviour. Dont think there is anything to do with this, darkseed seems to need the extra pad keys.

25 December 2005, 20:11	#13
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Nope, should work, a friend of mine used that tool in other games long ago, he told me.

27 December 2005, 11:50	#14
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	@Ironclaw 2 questions: the joymouse thing, just seems to make the joystick behave as a mouse (i.e. move the cursor around when in WB). How would that help with a game that requires a cd32 pad? Darkseed CD32 already uses the joystick, but cant go further cause it seems to need some extra buttons. Next, whdload kills everything running (including wb) and gives control to the games of the hardware bypassing anything running up to the whdload start. Can the joymouse utility survive this?

27 December 2005, 16:25	#15
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	If you have like me a mouse with 3 buttons and a middle scroll + 2 extra buttons, one on each side = a mouse with 7 buttons in total.. that's enough.. scroll up and down = 2 keys. Darkseed only needs 3 keys: left mouse to click stuff, right mouse to toggle action and middle mouse to skip the time... so it's perfect with a mouse for darkseed using that tool... you dont need all the cd32 gamepad buttons in that game.

27 December 2005, 16:31	#16
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	About using the tool with with whdload version of darkseed, I don't know. I just had the game installed on a HD and running without whdload... I have never play games from hd using whload, NEVER... so I don't have that problem... So why not play darkseed without whdload?

27 December 2005, 16:45	#17
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	Hi Ironclaw, Well, mainly because I dont have the cd32 version... (got the whdload one from magix site). I'll try and find the original one and give it one more go. Thanks.

27 December 2005, 22:29	#18
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	there is of course always the dreaded ebay for a cd32 controller or an old friend you dont mind beating the hell out of ? after all... its a cd32 controller and its worth it..... kinda..... have you tried an old PC GAME port based controller with dongle to convert it to amiga, I did this sooooo many moons ago i forgot what year it was in... lest be said decade... heres hoping you some luck, even though the game flopped and was considered poor i always had a softspot for the game known as dark seed. One thing IronClaw mentions is using a PC mouse with the amiga, you will need a cocolino available from vesalia.de or amigakit.co.uk thus giving you access to cheap ps2 3+ button mice

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