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Old 27 September 2007, 07:06   #1
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How to kill a program in workbench?

It happened to me a lot in the past. Having a crashed program in workbench wasting memory and not being able to kill it.

Is there a program like Linux's XKill for amiga ?

Edit: I am using wb2.1
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Old 27 September 2007, 08:28   #2
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You cannot kill a task in AmigaOS. AmigaOS does not have resource tracking, so nobody but the program itself knows which resources belong to it, so nobody can free all the memory.

You can try a program like ARTM or XOpa. But these programs usually can only kill a single resource, for example close a window or remove a message port. And you can easily make other programs crash by removing the wrong resource by accident.

It's better to use the Ctrl-A-A method.
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I use a program called SCOUT.

http://aminet.net/package/util/moni/Scout_os3

So long as the frozen app has not crashed WB, I find it can close most frozen drawers and apps. Whether or not it completely gets rid of all traces, I dont know.

It certainly allows me to finish up my work and do a quick reboot though.
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Old 27 September 2007, 11:50   #4
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the best tool for this is Priman

it works like window's task manager...you can kill any program or process..also you can set or change priority of any program


http://aminet.net/util/moni/PriMan20.lha


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thanks a lot guys, will try them!
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the best tool for this is Priman
It works like window's task manager...you can kill any program or process..also you can set or change priority of any program
http://aminet.net/util/moni/PriMan20.lha

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Worked like a charm, thanks!

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No, it doesn't. AmigaOs does not have any resource management, so you do not know which process a resource belongs to. This just leaves the system in an unstable state - actually, after a crash, you do not know in which state the system is.
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actually, after a crash, you do not know in which state the system is.

So it's like before a crash (or any other time), where you also do not know in which state the system is ... ;-)
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No, it's not. Before the crash, the system was working. Now, if you attempt to release resources of the crashed system, you do not know which process these resources belong to, thus you cannot know whether to release or not to release them - AmigaOs does not track resources.
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No, it's not. Before the crash, the system was working. Now, if you attempt to release resources of the crashed system, you do not know which process these resources belong to, thus you cannot know whether to release or not to release them - AmigaOs does not track resources.
You say the "system was working" but that isn't strictly true, it might only be working until an action or condition is met that causes the system to fall over completely.

At least some of these programs might give the user some extra time so that they can save any critical work before the inevitable crash occurs, but the presumption that the system is ok in the mean time simply isn't true.

Once you've saved whats critical, always a 3 finger salute on the keyboard and start from a fresh reboot.
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It happened to me a lot in the past. Having a crashed program in workbench wasting memory and not being able to kill it.

Is there a program like Linux's XKill for amiga ?

Edit: I am using wb2.1
you should probably just do the tried-and-true Ctrl + Amiga + Amiga
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