A-Max disks? - Page 4

cosmicfrog · 23 February 2009, 17:54

oh dear sounds like another nite sorting probs out Supamax

just booted amax2 on 1200 yay, screen is a bit corrupt (usual blitter probs) but it gave me enough to boot mac system 6.03 so I`m makeing sum progress

trying to dms mac system 6.03 up the unpack it 2 a disk just 2 see if it works

Supamax · 23 February 2009, 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

oh dear sounds like another nite sorting probs out Supamax

I hope not...

Quote:

trying to dms mac system 6.03 up the unpack it 2 a disk just 2 see if it works

Do you mean you can get a .dms from a non-AmigaDOS disk?
I thought that DMS couldn't handle protected/non-standard floppies!
I'm VERY interested (and I think prowler will be too), because that would be an easy way to dump A-Max-formatted floppies (and exchange between us).

cosmicfrog · 23 February 2009, 18:20

well i thought I`d give it a try but it did`t work, might be the disk

still looking for xcopy untill then its a case of fromat disk and copy stuff to it

oh well its all fun

Supamax · 23 February 2009, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

well i thought I`d give it a try but it did`t work, might be the disk

still looking for xcopy untill then its a case of fromat disk and copy stuff to it

oh well its all fun

Well, I suppose DMS will not handle non-standard tracks, as I imagined

.

Please do not copy your floppies file-by-file! It's not the same thing as copying them as a whole. Furthermore, you can't copy a System Disk (which is bootable by the Mac) file-by-file: you will lose the booting facility. I tried it with CrossMac.

cosmicfrog · 23 February 2009, 18:27

yes I know we are after disk images

hope to do the file copying in amax to make a bootable floppy

but it looks like my 2nd disk drive is playing up or dead

need back up of mac system as only got it on 1 disk

Supamax · 23 February 2009, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

need back up of mac system as only got it on 1 disk

Use CrossMac

. With it I easily duplicated all my A-Max floppies!
Do you want it uploaded to the Zone?

cosmicfrog · 23 February 2009, 18:58

just installed CrossMac

but only my system disk and Mac playmate seem to work

mac write II seems dead

Supamax · 23 February 2009, 19:45

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Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

just installed CrossMac

but only my system disk and Mac playmate seem to work

Did you successfully copied them on new floppies?

Quote:

mac write II seems dead

Did you try the included (in CrossMac) file copy/recovery utility?

cosmicfrog · 23 February 2009, 22:07

Haven`t tried to copy them yet and haven`t looked at cross mac so will explore the recovery thingy

but the problem remains how are we going to image the disks so i can upload them ?

Supamax · 23 February 2009, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

Haven`t tried to copy them yet and haven`t looked at cross mac so will explore the recovery thingy

About duplicating them, CrossMac is ideal. It installs a newer version of Diskcopy, so you will be able to copy an A-Max disk as it was an AmigaDOS disks. You click on the A-Max floppy icon, then click on the WB menu on "Copy" and voilà.

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but the problem remains how are we going to image the disks so i can upload them ?

I know... A solution could be Emplant. If you can make it run (how? I asked hit to tell us

) on your A1200, then you'll be able to directly dump your A-Max floppies.

hit · 23 February 2009, 23:09

i've just installed emplant. the problem with my winuae setup (040/88x and workbench 3.9) was the installer from the emplant disk. just gave guru.
so i deleted the installer and the installscript was using c:installer. that works well.
the emplant installer adds some lines at the top of the s:startup-sequence. these lines invoke "RsrvCold" program. maybe its already in your startup-sequnce so it will give error, if its started twice ?
i guess thats the trouble with the "yellow screen". it should not harm the harddrive itself.

using a quadra rom i found using google, just crashed the emplant emu. so i could not test it. maybe different cpu settings, or it just wont work with workbench 3.9. not sure yet.
it also crashs, if i try to increase the memory in the configure.

prowler · 23 February 2009, 23:14

Hey, that Emplant disk is a great upload, hit!

Whether we succeed in dumping A-Max-formatted floppies with it or not, that's one hell of a useful application.

Thanks again, mate!

prowler

prowler · 24 February 2009, 00:49

Hi Supamax,

Tonight I have been searching online for older versons of popular alternative Macintosh disk copying/imaging programs which might operate under A-Max emulation without the prohibitive memory requirement of Disk Copy.

I have found DiskDup+ 2.5, Disk Charmer 2.2.1 and ShrinkWrap 1.3.1

If these are OK in Macintosh Plus emulation, then they may well be suitable for dumping the A-Max floppies from within the A-Max emulator.

prowler

Supamax · 24 February 2009, 01:18

Hi prowler,

great

, we're almost there, I feel it!

Could you try them on your Mac Plus emulator (you have waaay better experience than me), or do you need me to try them in A-Max first?

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Originally Posted by hit

using a quadra rom i found using google, just crashed the emplant emu. so i could not test it.

Hi hit,

I read this on Emplant v1.7 docs (I don't know if your version is older or not):
SPECIAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS

HARDWARE

An Amiga 2000 or 3000 with a 68020 or 68030 processor.
(68040 compatibility is unconfirmed, A4000 support is
promised "soon", and an A1200 board is in the works.)

MAC II/IIx/IIcx ROM's.

SOFTWARE

Macintosh System 6.0.5 or greater

I suppose I will never be able to run it on my A600, but I will be able to use it in WinUAE, and I will be able to create A-Max extended .adfs which I can then copy to real floppies with the aid of Powercopy (hopefully).

Supamax · 24 February 2009, 01:31

I found the Emplant manual!

http://amiga.resource.cx/manual/Emplant.pdf

There are GREAT informations inside!!!!

prowler · 24 February 2009, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Hi prowler,

great

, we're almost there, I feel it!

Could you try them on your Mac Plus emulator (you have waaay better experience than me), or do you need me to try them in A-Max first?

Hi Supamax,

I'll try them in my Mac Plus emulator. It's all set up on this machine. I'd be doing it now, but these old utilities always seem to be archived using much later versions of the compression software than will decompress successfully using software that will run on the same machines the utilities themselves were designed for.

I'll have to extract them on my Macintosh.

Those that work OK, I'll upload tomorrow in zipped MacBinary format for you to try in A-Max.

prowler

Supamax · 24 February 2009, 01:36

Just look at page 57 of the .pdf manual!

The Disk Converter is all we need

.
The first one who finds it on an Emplant disk wins a lot of hugs & kisses by me

Supamax · 24 February 2009, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Those that work OK, I'll upload tomorrow in zipped MacBinary format for you to try in A-Max.

prowler

Thanks, my friend!

prowler · 24 February 2009, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Just look at page 57 of the .pdf manual!

The Disk Converter is all we need

.

Hi Supamax!

Do you think I should drop everything else and search the Emplant archives on my Aminet CDs and Emulator Compilation CDs for this Disk Converter now?

prowler

Supamax · 24 February 2009, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Do you think I should drop everything else and search the Emplant archives on my Aminet CDs and Emulator Compilation CDs for this Disk Converter now?

prowler

If what I read on the manual is true... YES! ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!

Did you notice how many formats it can manage? Even Mac's Disk Copy, DiskDup+,...

EDIT: perhaps it can also be found on hit's uploaded adf. I didn't check it yet

23 February 2009, 23:09	#71
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	i've just installed emplant. the problem with my winuae setup (040/88x and workbench 3.9) was the installer from the emplant disk. just gave guru. so i deleted the installer and the installscript was using c:installer. that works well. the emplant installer adds some lines at the top of the s:startup-sequence. these lines invoke "RsrvCold" program. maybe its already in your startup-sequnce so it will give error, if its started twice ? i guess thats the trouble with the "yellow screen". it should not harm the harddrive itself. using a quadra rom i found using google, just crashed the emplant emu. so i could not test it. maybe different cpu settings, or it just wont work with workbench 3.9. not sure yet. it also crashs, if i try to increase the memory in the configure. Last edited by hit; 23 February 2009 at 23:16.

24 February 2009, 01:36	#77
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Just look at page 57 of the .pdf manual! The Disk Converter is all we need . The first one who finds it on an Emplant disk wins a lot of hugs & kisses by me Last edited by Supamax; 24 February 2009 at 01:43.

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23 February 2009, 17:54	#61
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	oh dear sounds like another nite sorting probs out Supamax just booted amax2 on 1200 yay, screen is a bit corrupt (usual blitter probs) but it gave me enough to boot mac system 6.03 so I`m makeing sum progress trying to dms mac system 6.03 up the unpack it 2 a disk just 2 see if it works

23 February 2009, 18:20	#63
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	well i thought I`d give it a try but it did`t work, might be the disk still looking for xcopy untill then its a case of fromat disk and copy stuff to it oh well its all fun

23 February 2009, 18:27	#65
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	yes I know we are after disk images hope to do the file copying in amax to make a bootable floppy but it looks like my 2nd disk drive is playing up or dead need back up of mac system as only got it on 1 disk

23 February 2009, 18:58	#67
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	just installed CrossMac but only my system disk and Mac playmate seem to work mac write II seems dead

23 February 2009, 22:07	#69
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	Haven`t tried to copy them yet and haven`t looked at cross mac so will explore the recovery thingy but the problem remains how are we going to image the disks so i can upload them ?

23 February 2009, 23:14	#72
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hey, that Emplant disk is a great upload, hit! Whether we succeed in dumping A-Max-formatted floppies with it or not, that's one hell of a useful application. Thanks again, mate! prowler

24 February 2009, 00:49	#73
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Supamax, Tonight I have been searching online for older versons of popular alternative Macintosh disk copying/imaging programs which might operate under A-Max emulation without the prohibitive memory requirement of Disk Copy. I have found DiskDup+ 2.5, Disk Charmer 2.2.1 and ShrinkWrap 1.3.1 If these are OK in Macintosh Plus emulation, then they may well be suitable for dumping the A-Max floppies from within the A-Max emulator. prowler

24 February 2009, 01:31	#75
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	I found the Emplant manual! http://amiga.resource.cx/manual/Emplant.pdf There are GREAT informations inside!!!!

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