Athanor 2, Legend of Birdmen for the Commodore Amiga (Physical edition) - Page 4

Astrofra · 26 August 2022, 13:06

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Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Why Atari ST version? Comparision was to show difference between ECS/OCS and AGA version.

Is Atari ST version have different graphics than Amiga OCS/ECS?

To the best of my knowledge, the bitmaps of both Atari ST and Amiga OCS versions of ISHAR are completely identical (= 16 colors max).
That makes the difference between ISHAR OCS & ISHAR AGA really obvious (the AGA version was built on the graphics of the MS-DOS VGA version, probably).

In the case of Athanor 2, if you take the time to compare all versions, the STF, the OCS and now AGA have different graphics, and I don't see how I could get this result on the AGA version by a "simple reuse of old material"

All in all, I can completely understand that our choice of color on Athanor 2 is not your taste and that you expect an AGA game to deliver super colorful bitmaps. Won't happen here

Solo Kazuki · 26 August 2022, 13:45

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Thanks Astrofra, i have already reserved my copy to Eric Safar

I appreciate that you finally decided for the A1200 256 colors version. The communauty thanks you a lot for that move !

Indeed more colors... but sadly (for me) most of them are used for GUI. Graphics of locations in main windows just have more shades.

Solo Kazuki · 26 August 2022, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Astrofra

All in all, I can completely understand that our choice of color on Athanor 2 is not your taste and that you expect an AGA game to deliver super colorful bitmaps. Won't happen here

And that's bad info for me, because game is very good.

I can understand Your way with less dithering (that's main difference, isn't?), but I'm betting dollars against nuts that in future would be more opinions as mine. And maybe even more critic.

Solo Kazuki · 26 August 2022, 13:53

I said what I think and maybe we should over here. But mind that I'm not about colorfur patchwork. I'm saying about more contrast and wider palette, not holi festival.

Just saying.

Solo Kazuki · 26 August 2022, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Astrofra

(...)

Just mentioned that AGA version is more blurry. It is really that "enhancement" which make game "AGA required"?

Somehow It recall me subject of Rygar made by McGeezer. I can say now (as joke!) what some people was saying (in Rygar case not true) "I'm not seeing AGA requirement here"

Just wondering, how those graphics could look in EHB mode. I'm betting difference could be very minor.

Astrofra · 26 August 2022, 17:30

"more blurry" ?
Softer, I can understand, as most of the dithering is gone.
But "blurry" ?

Anyway... some people will like this version, some other won't, that's the way things work and I'm fine with it.

Solo Kazuki · 26 August 2022, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Astrofra

Anyway... some people will like this version, some other won't, that's the way things work and I'm fine with it.

When I heard about AGA version I was planning to order it. But when I saw this "enhancements" I just gone "disenchanted". Maybe It's reason why I'm writing all this.

I hope there are not too much people like myself, because it can cause lesser sales of AGA version.

Just answered and no more "nagging" from my side. I wish You very good sales of AGA version, but this is not for me, sadly.

malko · 26 August 2022, 17:43

I personally find the visual difference visible and GFX (& colour choice) are really nice on both version.

Astrofra · 26 August 2022, 21:30

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Originally Posted by malko

I personally find the visual difference visible and GFX (& colour choice) are really nice on both version.

Thanks for your nice comment.

The colors of the main view, gui, inventory objects, portraits and all kinds of sprites are not the only "enhancements".
Approx. 3 minutes of soundscape (made out of 150Kb of sounds) have been added to the game, in addition to the existing musics.
And I won't even mention the amount of changes I did in the source code to implement the AGA support

dlfrsilver · 26 August 2022, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Astrofra

Thanks for your nice comment.

The colors of the main view, gui, inventory objects, portraits and all kinds of sprites are not the only "enhancements".
Approx. 3 minutes of soundscape (made out of 150Kb of sounds) have been added to the game, in addition to the existing musics.

And I won't even mention the amount of changes I did in the source code to implement the AGA support

Are the graphics straight 256 ou 128 colors?

Astrofra · 27 August 2022, 00:05

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Are the graphics straight 256 ou 128 colors?

8 bitplanes, 320x200.

dlfrsilver · 27 August 2022, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Astrofra

8 bitplanes, 320x200.

Awesome. Thanks for these screens and the effort you did in 256 colors.

My copy is reserved with Eric already

Gzegzolka · 27 August 2022, 19:48

For me it is very nice upgrade and I like new graphics

Astrofra · 11 September 2022, 16:15

Lol, TRSI released a cracked (?) version of Athanor 2 OCS (or at least a cracktro) :

Unrelated to that, I found a series of old comparison between the STF, STE and Amiga OCS versions (because, you know, before some complained about the AGA version not being "AGA" enough, there was a discussion about the OCS not being "OCS" enough

)

malko · 11 September 2022, 16:52

Consider your game as a good one since it got an intro from a well known group

Hope the one I plan to do will benefit such treatment

Regarding the pictures, even if both are 16 colours, I prefer the STE ones over the STF.

Alpha One · 13 September 2022, 14:25

TRSI back with AGA also.

Jeeg · 13 September 2022, 15:10

Thanks a lot for the AGA version, an opportunity to replay this great game !

Copy ordered too !

dirkwhoffmann · 12 March 2023, 20:10

Is there a free demo version available for the OCS/ECS version of this game? If yes, I would like to add it to the 'Showcases' section of vAmiga.net:

https://vamiganet.github.io

Fery · 15 March 2023, 09:27

Looks amazing, I need to order a physical copy.

divined · 18 May 2023, 15:31

Hello

Is the AGA edition still available? I tried contacting Eric but got no reply.
Furthermore, there does not seem any way to order it currently on the link shared above.

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Alpha One Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ger Posts: 223	TRSI back with AGA also. Attached Thumbnails

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dirkwhoffmann Dirk Hoffmann Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 33	Is there a free demo version available for the OCS/ECS version of this game? If yes, I would like to add it to the 'Showcases' section of vAmiga.net: https://vamiganet.github.io Last edited by dirkwhoffmann; 14 March 2023 at 18:28.

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26 August 2022, 13:53	#64
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	I said what I think and maybe we should over here. But mind that I'm not about colorfur patchwork. I'm saying about more contrast and wider palette, not holi festival. Just saying.

26 August 2022, 17:30	#66
Astrofra Amos Basic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orleans \| France Age: 49 Posts: 85	"more blurry" ? Softer, I can understand, as most of the dithering is gone. But "blurry" ? Anyway... some people will like this version, some other won't, that's the way things work and I'm fine with it.

26 August 2022, 17:43	#68
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	I personally find the visual difference visible and GFX (& colour choice) are really nice on both version.

27 August 2022, 19:48	#73
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	For me it is very nice upgrade and I like new graphics

11 September 2022, 16:15	#74
Astrofra Amos Basic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orleans \| France Age: 49 Posts: 85	Lol, TRSI released a cracked (?) version of Athanor 2 OCS (or at least a cracktro) : Unrelated to that, I found a series of old comparison between the STF, STE and Amiga OCS versions (because, you know, before some complained about the AGA version not being "AGA" enough, there was a discussion about the OCS not being "OCS" enough )

11 September 2022, 16:52	#75
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Consider your game as a good one since it got an intro from a well known group Hope the one I plan to do will benefit such treatment Regarding the pictures, even if both are 16 colours, I prefer the STE ones over the STF.

13 September 2022, 15:10	#77
Jeeg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: France Posts: 18	Thanks a lot for the AGA version, an opportunity to replay this great game ! Copy ordered too !

15 March 2023, 09:27	#79
Fery Registered User Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Pilsen Age: 47 Posts: 37	Looks amazing, I need to order a physical copy.

18 May 2023, 15:31	#80
divined Registered User Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Valletta Posts: 2	Hello Is the AGA edition still available? I tried contacting Eric but got no reply. Furthermore, there does not seem any way to order it currently on the link shared above.

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