Unable to Install YAM

DanBy · 30 March 2023, 12:57

I'm tinkering around with getting my A1200 online. Roadshow is installed and works fine as does iBrowse. But I can not for the life of me get YAM to install.

I've been to the github (https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/tags) and downloaded the three latest versions; 2.9p1,YAM210dev-20220710-f4bcbf-AmigaOS3.lha, YAM210dev-20210531-9f8731-AmigaOS3.lha. All three fail to install.

Going through the install dialogues you get to the point of clicking "Proceed" to initiate the install and it just hangs at 1%, no progress happens after that.

This appears to be the same as this issue, http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=80180. However I've tried the given solution of updating my version of C:Installer. I've tried Installer from 3.1.4 and 3.9. There is no difference in the behaviour for the Install script.

I'm running Workbench 3.1 with betterWB. I have MUI3.8 installed in a partition called Utils:

Any ideas?

James · 30 March 2023, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBy

However I've tried the given solution of updating my version of C:Installer. I've tried Installer from 3.1.4 and 3.9. There is no difference in the behaviour for the Install script.

YAM install looks for Installer not C:Installer - you may have another version somewhere in your path. You could try editing the install icon to use C:Installer to ensure it uses the correct version.

mfilos · 30 March 2023, 19:40

I use the latest nightly build with OS3.2.2 (using MUI 5) and never had a problem with installation. It also works just fine with latest AmiSSL.

DanBy · 30 March 2023, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

YAM install looks for Installer not C:Installer - you may have another version somewhere in your path. You could try editing the install icon to use C:Installer to ensure it uses the correct version.

Well C is on my path so placing the Installer binary in C: should allow it to be found?

FWIW I've just tried this in a completely clean workbench3.1 install in winUAE. By default there is not Installer binary so the YAM installer does not run at all. Having placed Installer in C: the installer now runs but continues to hang at the same place.

James · 31 March 2023, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBy

Well C is on my path so placing the Installer binary in C: should allow it to be found?

Not if it finds a different version first...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBy

FWIW I've just tried this in a completely clean workbench3.1 install in winUAE. By default there is not Installer binary so the YAM installer does not run at all. Having placed Installer in C: the installer now runs but continues to hang at the same place.

Adding a C: to the icon would have been quicker.

YAM is not that difficult to install by hand, AFAIR all you need to do is put the drawer where you want and then copy the required system and MUI libs to the relevant places. I'll double check if I've forgotten an assign, env variable or something and update this post...

DanBy · 01 April 2023, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Adding a C: to the icon would have been quicker.

Sure but I have a winuae hard file with a base install on wb3.1 that I can easily copy and I also wanted to check that my issue wasn't due to something I'd previously been tinkering with on my main/physical amiga's hard drive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

YAM is not that difficult to install by hand, AFAIR all you need to do is put the drawer where you want and then copy the required system and MUI libs to the relevant places. I'll double check if I've forgotten an assign, env variable or something and update this post...

If you have the time to check that would be greatly appreciated.

James · 01 April 2023, 19:53

Looks like I was right - there are no assigns or env variables. All you need to do to install YAM is extract it wherever you want and then open the install drawer, select show all files in the menu and you should see a libs drawer and a mui drawer. Drag and drop the libs drawer onto your system drive and drag and drop the mui drawer onto your mui/libs drawer.
The libraries in the latest YAM archive are the newest versions, so it shouldn't matter if they overwrite anything, but making a backup is always wise.

That's all.

DanBy · 03 April 2023, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Looks like I was right - there are no assigns or env variables. All you need to do to install YAM is extract it wherever you want and then open the install drawer, select show all files in the menu and you should see a libs drawer and a mui drawer. Drag and drop the libs drawer onto your system drive and drag and drop the mui drawer onto your mui/libs drawer.
The libraries in the latest YAM archive are the newest versions, so it shouldn't matter if they overwrite anything, but making a backup is always wise.

That's all.

Given your suggestion I realised I could just open the Installer script and copy whatever actions it takes. There were a couple of other things to move to a separate installation directory and the MUI contents went to MUI:libs/mui but otherwise you were spot on.

Still not running right now but that's just a lack of RAM issue I can quickly address.

Edit: works fine with plenty Z3 RAM available

Tarzin · 05 April 2023, 16:21

YAM is still working on A1200 (OS3.2)?
Are there restrictions (ex: Gmail not working)

Thanks for your advices

mfilos · 06 April 2023, 20:28

The 2.10-dev version (10/07/2022) works just fine for me (on an Zoho account that I use using POP).
A friend is using it with GMail successfully (I guess it's either with 2-factor authentication and app-speciffic passwords or with "Less secure apps" enabled on the account.

DanBy · 12 April 2023, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarzin

YAM is still working on A1200 (OS3.2)?
Are there restrictions (ex: Gmail not working)

Thanks for your advices

I would say it is quite painful unless you're on 68030 or faster but otherwise seems fine on my a1200 now that it is working

Tarzin · 13 April 2023, 21:10

@mfilos,
Thanks for the tip!

It works with 2.10dev and AmiSSL 5.7
https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/rel...nightly-builds

@Danby,
My Amiga1200 is a 68030 with 128Mo. Yam is a bit slow but quite usable

Futaura · 21 April 2023, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarzin

@mfilos,
Thanks for the tip!

It works with 2.10dev and AmiSSL 5.7
https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/rel...nightly-builds

@Danby,
My Amiga1200 is a 68030 with 128Mo. Yam is a bit slow but quite usable

You should notice it is not quite so slow with AmiSSL 5.8, compared to 5.7, seeing as the newer version comes with some performance improvements.

30 March 2023, 12:57	#1
DanBy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: London Posts: 56	Unable to Install YAM I'm tinkering around with getting my A1200 online. Roadshow is installed and works fine as does iBrowse. But I can not for the life of me get YAM to install. I've been to the github (https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/tags) and downloaded the three latest versions; 2.9p1,YAM210dev-20220710-f4bcbf-AmigaOS3.lha, YAM210dev-20210531-9f8731-AmigaOS3.lha. All three fail to install. Going through the install dialogues you get to the point of clicking "Proceed" to initiate the install and it just hangs at 1%, no progress happens after that. This appears to be the same as this issue, http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=80180. However I've tried the given solution of updating my version of C:Installer. I've tried Installer from 3.1.4 and 3.9. There is no difference in the behaviour for the Install script. I'm running Workbench 3.1 with betterWB. I have MUI3.8 installed in a partition called Utils: Any ideas?

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30 March 2023, 19:40	#3
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I use the latest nightly build with OS3.2.2 (using MUI 5) and never had a problem with installation. It also works just fine with latest AmiSSL.

01 April 2023, 19:53	#7
James Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beckenham/England Posts: 795	Looks like I was right - there are no assigns or env variables. All you need to do to install YAM is extract it wherever you want and then open the install drawer, select show all files in the menu and you should see a libs drawer and a mui drawer. Drag and drop the libs drawer onto your system drive and drag and drop the mui drawer onto your mui/libs drawer. The libraries in the latest YAM archive are the newest versions, so it shouldn't matter if they overwrite anything, but making a backup is always wise. That's all.

05 April 2023, 16:21	#9
Tarzin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunkerque / FRANCE Posts: 173	YAM is still working on A1200 (OS3.2)? Are there restrictions (ex: Gmail not working) Thanks for your advices

06 April 2023, 20:28	#10
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	The 2.10-dev version (10/07/2022) works just fine for me (on an Zoho account that I use using POP). A friend is using it with GMail successfully (I guess it's either with 2-factor authentication and app-speciffic passwords or with "Less secure apps" enabled on the account.

13 April 2023, 21:10	#12
Tarzin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunkerque / FRANCE Posts: 173	@mfilos, Thanks for the tip! It works with 2.10dev and AmiSSL 5.7 https://github.com/jens-maus/yam/rel...nightly-builds @Danby, My Amiga1200 is a 68030 with 128Mo. Yam is a bit slow but quite usable

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