uae-configuration: how to enable/disable 'cycle-exact'?

[hexaae]

Is there a way to invoke (enable/disable) cycle-exact from within WUAE? I'd like to set it for a couple of WHDLoad games...

[Leffmann]

Hardware -> Chipset -> Options -> Cycle exact. If you were asking how to toggle the flag from inside the emulated Amiga then I don't know, and I'm not sure you can seamlessly switch this mode on and off.

[Retro-Nerd]

ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration blitter_cycle_exact true
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration blitter_cycle_exact false

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration blitter_cycle_exact true
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration blitter_cycle_exact false

It does nothing
I tested cpu_cycle_exact true, cycle_exact true but it doesn't seem to work...

[NewDeli]

Did you copy uae-configuration in the C directory ?
It's a small program without any icon that is provided with full versions of WinUAE.

[Retro-Nerd]

Yep, Deli is right.

ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration cpu_cycle_exact true
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration cpu_cycle_exact false

This should work.

[Toni Wilen]

cycle_exact should be used with new WinUAE versions but cpu_cycle_exact also works (both, at least now, automatically changes other needed options like blitter_cycle_exact)

Also remember to disable JIT before trying to switch cycle exact on.

btw, currently cycle exact (via uae-configuration) won't automatically enable "A500 speed" (cpu_speed=real), any other cpu_speed option can cause incorrect timing.

[Retro-Nerd]

ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration cachesize 0 cpu_speed real cycle_exact true
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration cachesize 8192 cpu_speed max cycle_exact false

The full command.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

The full command.

Better reverse order of cleanup commands. Someday it may not be possible to enable JIT before disabling cycle exact..

[Retro-Nerd]

Ok, thanks for the info. Will keep this in mind.

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Better reverse order of cleanup commands. Someday it may not be possible to enable JIT before disabling cycle exact..

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Also remember to disable JIT before trying to switch cycle exact on.

Thank you friends!
ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration cachesize 0 cycle_exact true
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration cycle_exact false cpu_speed max cachesize 8192
seem to work fine with Nebulus2 WHDLoad (without cycle_exact "niche-monsters" wouldn't be visible! Go right in the very first tower...) and my emulated 060/fastest/JIT settings!

[Skirner]

in witch file you add the lines? so workbench always start with JIT enabled. even if a whdload game has disabled it.

[Retro-Nerd]

WB starts always with JIT enabled, if you configure it in WinUAE. Write the execute tooltype into the game icons (mouse rightclick -> Icons -> Informations.

[Skirner]

I mean if i "ctrl+alt+del" but (ctrl+A+A) to reset the amiga from a whdload game. workbench loads up without JIT enabled. because whdload disables jit when i launch a game.
So can I add to any prefs file within WB to automaticaly enable jit when wb boots?

[Retro-Nerd]

Why do you want to reset from WHDLoad games? There is a quit key (watch the blue splash screen to see which one for a specific game) for every WHDLoad game. The quitkey activates this command

ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration cycle_exact false cpu_speed max cachesize 8192

re-enable JIT and returns to the WB desktop, where you can start another WHDLoad game.

[Skirner]

yes i know, but its not always one quit with the "quit" key. as it's different key in lots of games, and some preffered keys are very hard to find on the pc keyboard.

i have whdload setted up with the 'cycle_exact false' stuff. Thats why i wonder if there is any way to have it enabled again when wb boot up. (in any of the boot files) or something like that.

edit: yes it works if i quit game with right quit key

[Retro-Nerd]

You can set a global quit key for all games. Open s:whdload.prefs with an editor and configure your key. Here are the rawkey codes:

http://whdload.de/docs/en/rawkey.html

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by Skirner

yes i know, but its not always one quit with the "quit" key. as it's different key in lots of games, and some preffered keys are very hard to find on the pc keyboard.

That's why you have to spend a few time on the WUAE input config panel and learn/reconfigure your own keyboard. Once you've done this, the problem will be solved.

My advices:

1. reconfigure WUAE<->Amiga keyboard
2. use WHD ExecuteStartup and ExecuteCleanup tooltypes when needed (and you'll discover that many games need the "C:uae-configuration cachesize 0"
3. reconfigure your S:WHDLoad.prefs file and use the 2 files "S:WHDLoad_start" and "S:WHDLoad_cleanup" automatically executed everytime WHDLoad starts and quits, if present in S:
4. put a string like this at the beginning of your SSeq:"C:uae-configuration cachesize 8192 cpu_speed max" to avoid slow boot-up if you have to reset when your emulation speed has been degraded

[Skirner]

Okey, thanks. Just one more question..
Is it possible to set F11 as WHDLoad quit key?

edit: sorry hexaae, diddnt see your post

[Skirner]

Originally Posted by hexaae

4. put a string like this at the beginning of your SSeq:"C:uae-configuration cachesize 8192 cpu_speed max" to avoid slow boot-up if you have to reset when your emulation speed has been degraded

Hmm. ok, but i dont really understand what my SSeq: is? or where it is.