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Old 17 February 2022, 18:35   #61
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After 2050 the global population is expected to decrease instead of increase. As it is right now, the age "curve" is top-heavy, there are more people in the older age ranges than the younger. So I wouldn't rely on that "small percent of people" to become a larger value, even without some catastrophe happening. Sorry to rain on your parade.
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Old 17 February 2022, 18:44   #62
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After 2050 the global population is expected to decrease instead of increase.
Even when we start colonizing solar system, and beyond?
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Old 17 February 2022, 18:55   #64
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Even when we start colonizing solar system, and beyond?

At this rate, we'll be lucky to start on that before 2200.
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Old 17 February 2022, 20:11   #66
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After 2050 the global population is expected to decrease instead of increase. As it is right now, the age "curve" is top-heavy, there are more people in the older age ranges than the younger. So I wouldn't rely on that "small percent of people" to become a larger value, even without some catastrophe happening. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Only true for the Western Civilization. Africa, Asia (particularly the mid east, India and undeveloped nations) and Mid & South America's populations are still growing.
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Old 17 February 2022, 21:01   #67
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Yeah the population will increase before it decreases, I saw this excellent talk by the late Hans Rosling that explained it in a way that's very easy to understand that goes into this.

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So the population will first decrease in those countries where the Amiga was used.
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Old 18 February 2022, 10:54   #69
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But unlike other retrocomputers of its time the Amiga is still being actively developed. Its future is brighter and more focused today than it was in 1994!
Unlike what computers, exactly?
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After 2050 the global population is expected to decrease instead of increase.
Well hopefully I live long enough to see that, but for now the way people are breeding like rabbits I kind of find it hard to believe it.
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It's sadly correct the Amiga won't be remembered - or at least not fondly. There's been a big re-evaluation of videogame history over the past decade or so, lead mainly by a combination of various specialist forums (e.g. shoot em ups), bigger organised attempts like Hardcore Gaming 101, and of course Youtubers. These are almost entirely American, and the main focus of their interest is Japanese games. A new canon has been formed of Japanese and American games, and these make up the new Global history of gaming.
That's true.

Was a weird experience for me, to see that my own European perspective of these things was so different from what was probably the more global one of "played video games on the NES and later on the PC".

But well, most experiences are personal anyway, and no one can take these from you.
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Well hopefully I live long enough to see that, but for now the way people are breeding like rabbits I kind of find it hard to believe it.

This is not true, population growth is slowing down already, yes, even in poorer nations. The only place this isn't true yet is Africa and with improving health care it will slow down there as well eventually.

The reason we won't see the effect of this in our lifetime is because it has to level out, if everyone in the world had 2 children each the population growth would still be happening until i reaches it's natural plateau, experts agree that as it looks right now we're going to end up on around 10 billion people (in the year 2100) until population growth starts decreasing.
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If you tell some Gen Z kid who's just finished going through the Megadrive and Snes libraries these are the best games on the Amiga they are not going to come back. This attitude has done huge damage to the Amiga's reputation.
That's partially true but you're looking at it from the current perspective. Anybody seriously looking at the videogaming history in the future (or even now) will easily see through the console & US-centric bias.

Overall, the doomerism prevalent in this thread is quite fascinating, seeing as there are no real reasons for it. Amiga's (and a few other micros') place in computing/gaming history is assured, thanks to being a trailblazer at the forefront of a revolution. And I appreciate being lucky enough that I could be a part of it all. Not a big claim to fame, perhaps, but it is something to smile about.
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This is not true, population growth is slowing down already, yes, even in poorer nations. The only place this isn't true yet is Africa and with improving health care it will slow down there as well eventually.

The reason we won't see the effect of this in our lifetime is because it has to level out, if everyone in the world had 2 children each the population growth would still be happening until i reaches it's natural plateau, experts agree that as it looks right now we're going to end up on around 10 billion people (in the year 2100) until population growth starts decreasing.
Yeah... this does not contradict at all what I say so I kind of wonder why this starts with "this is not true". No it is true, you then go ahead and back it up. People ARE breeding like rabbits (as in "because must spread DNA!" without ever worrying about population overgrowth). 10 billion in 2100 you say, that fits with what I've heard and read. Insane numbers.

Except that rampant diabetes is probably going to not allow that to happen, but we lack the functional crystal ball to know what is really going to happen in the next few decades.
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Except that rampant diabetes is probably going to not allow that to happen, but we lack the functional crystal ball to know what is really going to happen in the next few decades.
There are strong chances that will NOT be as the last century four decades
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Insane numbers.
I think people underestimate how many humans (and other living bings) Earth can sustain with no real problems of human overpopulation.
I'd say... easy over 100 billions.

It's other thing that we managed to create civilization, that many people starve, while some of them have fortune million times bigger then others.
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Was a weird experience for me, to see that my own European perspective of these things was so different from what was probably the more global one of "played video games on the NES and later on the PC".
Global in what sense?
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Digital memories never fade. Nothing can erase the Amiga.

Long live the 500 and 1200.

I totally agree. Even if I was physically immortal I don't think my fondness for retro gaming will be waning anytime soon. All of these new over the top violent games with fancy graphics that leave nothing to the imagination just don't do anything for me. I prefer the simplicity and imaginative gameplay of 80's & 90's retro gaming.
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