2nd fire button for Dynablaster. Is it possible?

PortuguesePilot · 07 July 2016, 16:18

The title says it all, really. My question/request here is: is it possible to "hack" Dynablaster into recognizing the second fire button? As we all know, the Amiga's version of Dynablaster is amazing yet it loses the titles of "best conversion" to the X68000 because it doesn't use the second fire button. When we pick up the explosion control upgrade, you have to press space to blow up the bombs. This hinders playability quite a lot. A simple programming trick would have made the game a whole lot more enjoyable if we were given the chance to use the second fire button to blow up the bombs.

Is this possible to implement? I've seen similar things done (WHDLoad's Toki uses two fire buttons now, for instance), so can Dynablaster benefit from the same treatment? Is it possible to hack/update both the ADF and the WHDLoad versions of Dynablaster?

Thanks for your answers.

Retro1234 · 07 July 2016, 16:23

WHDload version has CD32 pad support - dont know if it supports two button pad
http://www.whdload.de/games/DynaBlaster.html

CD³² joypad controls:
--------------------
Red - lay bomb
Blue - remote bomb (Spacebar)
Play - pause game (P)
Forward+Yellow - skip stage (F3-trainers)
Reverse+Red+Green - Esc
Reverse+Forward+Play - quit game (pressed at least 1 sec.)

PortuguesePilot · 07 July 2016, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

WHDload version has CD32 pad support - dont know if it supports two button pad
http://www.whdload.de/games/DynaBlaster.html

CD³² joypad controls:
--------------------
Red - lay bomb
Blue - remote bomb (Spacebar)
Play - pause game (P)
Forward+Yellow - skip stage (F3-trainers)
Reverse+Red+Green - Esc
Reverse+Forward+Play - quit game (pressed at least 1 sec.)

I am aware of this. Unfortunately, I do not own a CD32 pad, nor will I own one in the foreseeable future. I have tested the latest WHDLoad version of Dyna Blaster and it does not support the 2nd fire button in the fashion that I described above.

Retro1234 · 07 July 2016, 16:37

ask the author of the slave to add it or do a version without play,forward,reverse and it should work with two button pad - as pressing second button probably triggers all extra button ?

PortuguesePilot · 07 July 2016, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

ask the author of the slave to add it or do a version without play,forward,reverse and it should work with two button pad - as pressing second button probably triggers all extra button ?

I don't know how to contact him.

Retro-Nerd · 07 July 2016, 16:52

It's Psygore. Send him a pm here on EAB.

liviux76 · 07 July 2016, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortuguesePilot

The title says it all, really. My question/request here is: is it possible to "hack" Dynablaster into recognizing the second fire button? As we all know, the Amiga's version of Dynablaster is amazing yet it loses the titles of "best conversion" to the X68000 because it doesn't use the second fire button. When we pick up the explosion control upgrade, you have to press space to blow up the bombs. This hinders playability quite a lot. A simple programming trick would have made the game a whole lot more enjoyable if we were given the chance to use the second fire button to blow up the bombs.

Is this possible to implement? I've seen similar things done (WHDLoad's Toki uses two fire buttons now, for instance), so can Dynablaster benefit from the same treatment? Is it possible to hack/update both the ADF and the WHDLoad versions of Dynablaster?

Thanks for your answers.

This would be great!

Every time I decided to play Dynablaster in single player mode I gave up for that annoying choice to use "space bar" instead of "button 2" in order to activate the detonator...

Retro1234 · 07 July 2016, 17:25

Ive not tested but Run with CD32load IDE NTSC etc set all other buttons except Red/Button 1 as SpaceBar and Second button will probably work as SpaceBar.

ReadOnlyCat · 07 July 2016, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

WHDload version has CD32 pad support - dont know if it supports two button pad
http://www.whdload.de/games/DynaBlaster.html

WHDLoad has CD32 pad support? Is this recent or per slave?
Why is it then that we had this discussion a few months ago where Akira and others were asking for CD32 pad support for WHDLoad? Has it been added since?
This kitten is confused.

PortuguesePilot · 07 July 2016, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

It's Psygore. Send him a pm here on EAB.

Will do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Ive not tested but Run with CD32load IDE NTSC etc set all other buttons except Red/Button 1 as SpaceBar and Second button will probably work as SpaceBar.

Sorry, but I don't quite get what you're trying to say. If you're referring to WinUAE, I already have a joypad button assigned to "space", so that works like a charm. I was talking about actual Amiga hardware, though. The real deal. One can't (at least I don't know how it's done) assign a keystroke to a joystick/joypad button. That would also solve the issue.

The other alternative is, as I asked above, to "hack" the original Dyna Blaster and have it accept the 2nd fire button as space to detonate the remote bombs.

Retro1234 · 07 July 2016, 18:35

CD32load can map keys but I just tried it and couldnt get it to work with 2 button pad.

Readonlycat I dont know how your going to write this cd pad support for WHDload when its clossed source.

Psygore · 31 July 2016, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortuguesePilot

I am aware of this. Unfortunately, I do not own a CD32 pad, nor will I own one in the foreseeable future. I have tested the latest WHDLoad version of Dyna Blaster and it does not support the 2nd fire button in the fashion that I described above.

It's not only for the cd32 pad, the blue button works on an 2-button joystick too.

Anubis · 03 August 2016, 15:12

Psygore ahead of everyone else?

Controller is main reason I played PC Engine (TurboGrafx 16) version over Amiga.

07 July 2016, 16:18	#1
PortuguesePilot Global Moderator Join Date: May 2013 Location: Setúbal, Portugal Posts: 609	2nd fire button for Dynablaster. Is it possible? The title says it all, really. My question/request here is: is it possible to "hack" Dynablaster into recognizing the second fire button? As we all know, the Amiga's version of Dynablaster is amazing yet it loses the titles of "best conversion" to the X68000 because it doesn't use the second fire button. When we pick up the explosion control upgrade, you have to press space to blow up the bombs. This hinders playability quite a lot. A simple programming trick would have made the game a whole lot more enjoyable if we were given the chance to use the second fire button to blow up the bombs. Is this possible to implement? I've seen similar things done (WHDLoad's Toki uses two fire buttons now, for instance), so can Dynablaster benefit from the same treatment? Is it possible to hack/update both the ADF and the WHDLoad versions of Dynablaster? Thanks for your answers.

07 July 2016, 18:35	#11
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	CD32load can map keys but I just tried it and couldnt get it to work with 2 button pad. Readonlycat I dont know how your going to write this cd pad support for WHDload when its clossed source. Last edited by Retro1234; 07 July 2016 at 18:40.

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07 July 2016, 16:23	#2
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	WHDload version has CD32 pad support - dont know if it supports two button pad http://www.whdload.de/games/DynaBlaster.html CD³² joypad controls: -------------------- Red - lay bomb Blue - remote bomb (Spacebar) Play - pause game (P) Forward+Yellow - skip stage (F3-trainers) Reverse+Red+Green - Esc Reverse+Forward+Play - quit game (pressed at least 1 sec.)

07 July 2016, 16:37	#4
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	ask the author of the slave to add it or do a version without play,forward,reverse and it should work with two button pad - as pressing second button probably triggers all extra button ?

07 July 2016, 16:52	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	It's Psygore. Send him a pm here on EAB.

07 July 2016, 17:25	#8
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Ive not tested but Run with CD32load IDE NTSC etc set all other buttons except Red/Button 1 as SpaceBar and Second button will probably work as SpaceBar.

03 August 2016, 15:12	#13
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,059	Psygore ahead of everyone else? Controller is main reason I played PC Engine (TurboGrafx 16) version over Amiga.

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