WinUAE 4.9.0 beta series (Was 4.5.0) - Page 36

AC/DC HACKER! · 16 June 2021, 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

If anyone thinks that what Toni is saying is difficult or 'weird', they have no idea how big the mess actually is

Getting the hands on the programmed modes was like opening Pandora's box.

Thanks Toni!

I'm one of the probable "few/several"...that Can Relate or Do understand and are following along, here and there. Enough to remember something about Amiga coding, or...enough to follow along.

I also know that Toni isn't alone...users as yourself and others from "back in the days" are also helping.

I don't think Anything Toni is doing is *easy* or "weird". It's about Passion.

Mclane · 16 June 2021, 09:32

I'd also say 'devotion'...

While I'm not a coder on the Amiga, I have been around the emulation community a very, very long time, and you get to see the authors who it's a buzz to and the authors that put every ounce into it. I'm grateful to all the authors, but I see the one's that go that extra mile.

I also see the users that do the same...We appreciate all of you..

rutra80 · 16 June 2021, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Toni with Beta 22/23 with AROS 68k the arrow of the mouse is not more visible, to make visible the arrow of the mouse I must use the option "Install virtual mouse driver".

Sometimes the mouse arrow is invisible even if I use the virtual mouse driver, moreover with the virtual mouse driver I cannot move the windows on the Workbench, the latter problem also happened with previous versions of WinUAE.

Yep, in newer betas I need to disable "Hardware sprite emulation" to have the cursor.

jotd · 16 June 2021, 10:44

I remember that back in the days everyone said that emulating an amiga wasn't possible, because of all the custom chips, bus timings and all...

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 June 2021, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rutra80

Yep, in newer betas I need to disable "Hardware sprite emulation" to have the cursor.

Many thanks, in fact it is from beta 20 that you must deactivate "Hardware sprite emulation".
There is still the problem with the virtual mouse driver, where it is not usable for windows that you cannot move.

Toni Wilen · 16 June 2021, 15:15

Does winuae.7z fix it? (If it does, AROS p96 uaegfx stuff needs update)

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 June 2021, 17:20

Toni thanks for answering me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

If it does, AROS p96 uaegfx stuff needs update)

Is p96 uaegfx an update that you will do on WinUAE, or does the user have to do it?

- Ok for Hardware sprite emulation, now the arrow of the Mouse is visible even if the option is active

- About "virtual mouse driver" the problem remains, I attach a small video 358 KB that shows the problem.

- Version "winuae.7z" sometimes corrupts the graphics on the WinUAE GUI (rarely happens, but it could be my PC), see screenshot

http://eab.abime.net/zone/AROS-68k-Win.avi

Toni Wilen · 16 June 2021, 18:12

Quote:

Is p96 uaegfx an update that you will do on WinUAE, or does the user have to do it?

No, AROS needs to be updated. Current "fix" is only a workaround which will be removed later.

Quote:

- About "virtual mouse driver" the problem remains, I attach a small video 358 KB that shows the problem.

You forgot to mention when did it start (It can't have anything to do with missing cursor). And was that AROS only?

Quote:

- Version "winuae.7z" sometimes corrupts the graphics on the WinUAE GUI (rarely happens, but it could be my PC), see screenshot

Probably something to do with your PC.

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 June 2021, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

You forgot to mention when did it start (It can't have anything to do with missing cursor). And was that AROS only?

The Arrow problem disappeared starting with v4.5.0 beta 20

Virtual mouse driver problem "since always" even with old WinUAE 3.x versions but "only on AROS 68k".

Quote:

Probably something to do with your PC.

Yes thanks, strange that it started with winuae.7z, before never had

Toni Wilen · 16 June 2021, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Virtual mouse driver problem "since always" even with old WinUAE 3.x versions but "only on AROS 68k".

So why post it in this beta thread? Beta thread is not for old bugs.
(and almost surely this is some AROS feature and nothing to do with WinUAE)

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 June 2021, 18:50

Toni Virtual mouse drive i had never used it, I did the tests now to be more accurate.

Toni Wilen · 16 June 2021, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Toni Virtual mouse drive i had never used it, I did the tests now to be more accurate.

Yeah but rule has always been: a) last working version must be always reported (and it is always earlier beta because of next rule) b) if bug is in older version: not in beta thread.

But this is enough for this topic. Back to normal "legal" bugs, thanks

Zarnal · 17 June 2021, 20:54

There is an image shift problem with BC-Kid (at least since b17) in windowed mode (720 * 568) and without scaling ( or default ) (pic 1). Edit : Quickstart A500

No problem with WinUae 4.4 under the same conditions (pic 2).

Note : the savestate is ingame.

Edit 2 : since b1.

jabybau · 18 June 2021, 16:42

Hi Toni, would it be possible to change the title / screenshot priority in the next beta as mentioned here: https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=89014

chip · 21 June 2021, 12:20

There's no hurry at all, but when the new version of WinUAE will be released ?

Zarnal · 21 June 2021, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip

There's no hurry at all, but when the new version of WinUAE will be released ?

It's written in post #684 : autumn 2021.

chip · 21 June 2021, 13:45

Ok ..... thanks for the info

Mclane · 21 June 2021, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip

There's no hurry at all, but when the new version of WinUAE will be released ?

The question that never should be asked....

It's out when it is ready....

chip · 21 June 2021, 13:48

Why ?

It's just a question ..... i completely don't understand your answer, sorry

Mclane · 21 June 2021, 14:19

That's ok, it may be a language thing.

There's an old unofficial rule that you never ask the author when it's going to be out as it can be seen as putting pressure on the programmer. Every author is different, some don't mind, some DO mind.

It's all a bit tongue in cheek, we joke about release times but as there's a major rewrite going on with Toni at the moment I think we should not prod the crystal ball owning writer

Finding all the little issues and nailing them down must be infuriating.

Take what I wrote originally as a bit of a joke, there's no set rule its just a thing over my many years in the emulation circles that can raise the blood pressure

Paul..

17 June 2021, 20:54	#713
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 504	There is an image shift problem with BC-Kid (at least since b17) in windowed mode (720 * 568) and without scaling ( or default ) (pic 1). Edit : Quickstart A500 No problem with WinUae 4.4 under the same conditions (pic 2). Note : the savestate is ingame. Edit 2 : since b1. Last edited by Zarnal; 24 July 2021 at 13:18.

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16 June 2021, 09:32	#702
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	I'd also say 'devotion'... While I'm not a coder on the Amiga, I have been around the emulation community a very, very long time, and you get to see the authors who it's a buzz to and the authors that put every ounce into it. I'm grateful to all the authors, but I see the one's that go that extra mile. I also see the users that do the same...We appreciate all of you..

16 June 2021, 10:44	#704
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	I remember that back in the days everyone said that emulating an amiga wasn't possible, because of all the custom chips, bus timings and all...

16 June 2021, 15:15	#706
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Does winuae.7z fix it? (If it does, AROS p96 uaegfx stuff needs update)

16 June 2021, 18:50	#711
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Toni Virtual mouse drive i had never used it, I did the tests now to be more accurate.

18 June 2021, 16:42	#714
jabybau Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Italy Posts: 130	Hi Toni, would it be possible to change the title / screenshot priority in the next beta as mentioned here: https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=89014

21 June 2021, 12:20	#715
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	There's no hurry at all, but when the new version of WinUAE will be released ?

21 June 2021, 13:45	#717
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	Ok ..... thanks for the info

21 June 2021, 13:48	#719
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	Why ? It's just a question ..... i completely don't understand your answer, sorry

21 June 2021, 14:19	#720
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	That's ok, it may be a language thing. There's an old unofficial rule that you never ask the author when it's going to be out as it can be seen as putting pressure on the programmer. Every author is different, some don't mind, some DO mind. It's all a bit tongue in cheek, we joke about release times but as there's a major rewrite going on with Toni at the moment I think we should not prod the crystal ball owning writer Finding all the little issues and nailing them down must be infuriating. Take what I wrote originally as a bit of a joke, there's no set rule its just a thing over my many years in the emulation circles that can raise the blood pressure Paul..

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