A600 Options - Page 2

fitzsteve · 26 January 2010, 12:16

I take all your comments on board, the more I think of it now I will probably end up using it as a floppy based gaming machine

Looking at a 1.3 / 3.1 rom switcher with roms & official wb3.1 disks @ approx £22 this seems like a good deal?

Getting excited now

Retro1234 · 26 January 2010, 12:33

A600 doesnt make a bad little second machine, playing floppys feels more right than on the A1200 and haveing to reboot after a game isnt that bad you have do that anyway with most ADos installs.

Peter · 26 January 2010, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

I take all your comments on board, the more I think of it now I will probably end up using it as a floppy based gaming machine

Looking at a 1.3 / 3.1 rom switcher with roms & official wb3.1 disks @ approx £22 this seems like a good deal?

Getting excited now

I was looking at getting one of these... does the 1.3 rom support the hard drive - I think some 1.3 roms can be made to do this - so in theory you could duel boot either 3.1 or 1.3 operating systems...?

fitzsteve · 26 January 2010, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

I was looking at getting one of these... does the 1.3 rom support the hard drive - I think some 1.3 roms can be made to do this - so in theory you could duel boot either 3.1 or 1.3 operating systems...?

No as far as I am aware they (1.3 rom) don't support HDD's. It would just be for those old floppy's that only worked on my old A500

Would have to use the 3.1 rom for the HDD stuff and workbench...

alexh · 26 January 2010, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

I think some 1.3 roms can be made to do this - so in theory you could duel boot either 3.1 or 1.3 operating systems...?

If you burn your own KS1.3 EPROM you can patch in the required scsi.device to support booting from the A600's IDE.

http://www2.gup.jku.at/~tkoeck/kick1....device_patch/

And if you are going to burn your own EPROM (or have someone else do it for you) why not make your own KS Switcher using nothing more than 3-pole switch, three pieces of wire and a 27C800 EPROM. See this great guide by Kipper2k.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=581936&postcount=1

But it is really academic. Once you've got WHDload installed on your A600's hard drive running games from hard drive using KS3.1 you'll (probably) never switch back to booting floppy disks for gaming. And thus never need KS1.3

fitzsteve · 26 January 2010, 22:42

I went ahead an bought the Roms and switcher. It was £14 for just the 3.1 rom and 3.1 disks or £20 for the both roms (1.3 and 3.1) and switch kit.

It was worth it for me as I only have a set of 3.0 workbench disks...

Got my SRAM

So all I need now is the 600 and I have my eye on a few

alexh · 26 January 2010, 23:00

You could still buy a 27C400 EPROM with the patched KS1.3 in it from the guy listed in Kipper2k's guide.

Peter · 26 January 2010, 23:35

Thanks for the info Alex...

alexh · 27 January 2010, 00:10

You need to thank Kipper2K he did the research and write up.

Peter · 27 January 2010, 00:13

I just been reading through his post - he has put a lot of work in there!
Cheers Kipper2K!!

fitzsteve · 30 January 2010, 14:49

Well... I've now setup my CF-IDE HD with Classic WB 68k added things like my SCSI drivers and WHDLoad key, setup DH1 for my HD Installed Games and DH2 or my WHDLoad games. Was just about to copy my games list straght accross from my A1200 and realised I had only the AGA versions of the games like, ArcadePool, Zool, etc Grrrr! So I had to start again with the ECS versions!

A few hours later and I have a nice 1gb games list, I really hope that wont be too slow lol or I'll have to make a smaller fav's list on DH1... I've stuck with mostly 1 disk games like Silkwork, buggy boy, etc so I hope most will work with my 2mb SRAM card even if I can only get a 600 with 1mb ram.

My 1.3 - 3.1 rom switch arrived so that ready to go in and will let me play any of my old floppy collection

Quite a few auctions finishing tomorrow and next week so hopefully I will get a 600 soon enough

Nice work on the 68k pack Bloodwych it may be stripped down but it isn't lacking anything I need, will miss Igame but I can live without it plus I made a fav's list for KGLoad a while back by using the same text format as the main list just stripped down and it works! Although yet to test with 68k but I am hopeful

Steve.

Bloodwych · 30 January 2010, 16:08

Thanks for the update fixsteve!

KG hasn't released KGLoad for ECS yet - he has got an ECS version in mind and that link is for future support. At the moment it doesn't work.

So it's the list launchers only, but as you know they work quite well.

You can also launch games from within Dopus using IconLoad and of course good old drawer launching!

fitzsteve · 30 January 2010, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Thanks for the update fixsteve!

KG hasn't released KGLoad for ECS yet - he has got an ECS version in mind and that link is for future support. At the moment it doesn't work.

So it's the list launchers only, but as you know they work quite well.

You can also launch games from within Dopus using IconLoad and of course good old drawer launching!

Ahh so the KGLoad in 68k is non functional.... Thats why it wasn't working in WinUAE I thought its becuase I was running as an A1200 and it was for 68k...

Retro1234 · 30 January 2010, 17:02

All Amigas are 68k - Ive never tried but there is an OCS beta of KGLoad and AGS.
KGLoad
AGS-OCS
With limited memory using the games original installs if they have one will work a lot better -Good luck with your Setup

fitzsteve · 30 January 2010, 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

All Amigas are 68k - Ive never tried but there is an OCS beta of KGLoad and AGS.
KGLoad
AGS-OCS
With limited memory using the games original installs if they have one will work a lot better -Good luck with your Setup

Thanks boo boo

fitzsteve · 06 February 2010, 15:31

My A600 arrived

Not installed the 1.3-3.1 switch yet, will do that tomorrow.

There is already a 3.1 rom in there so I was able to test 68k and it looks superb on the real A600, runs a little slow but perhaps I'm just used to 030 power lol

Played a couple of games, I definatly over populated the games list as it takes about 30 seconds maybe more to open so I think I will do a top 50 or something

Heres some pics for you to enjoy:

Steve.

Bloodwych · 06 February 2010, 16:39

Nice pics Steve.

Can you try the RAD: boot (holding left mouse button on boot and selecting RADboot->Gamesmenu). See if it soft-resets back into the gamesmenu when you hit the magical three keys.....should be a good way around the quit key issues.

fitzsteve · 06 February 2010, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Nice pics Steve.

Can you try the RAD: boot (holding left mouse button on boot and selecting RADboot->Gamesmenu). See if it soft-resets back into the gamesmenu when you hit the magical three keys.....should be a good way around the quit key issues.

Thanks BW, I'll try it out a little later and report back

Update:

In radboot the games list works fine but if you quit out of a WHDLoad game by the three key reset it boots into workbench unless you hold the left button and reload the radboot.

Steve.

Bloodwych · 07 February 2010, 01:03

Strange, RAD: is meant to stay resident on reboot.

It recovers fine in WinUAE.

fitzsteve · 07 February 2010, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Strange, RAD: is meant to stay resident on reboot.

It recovers fine in WinUAE.

I'll try again in a while, just making a smaller games list

Just so we're singing from the same hymn sheet.. Boot holding left mouse, then choose radboot, choose games menu. It boots in Amigados and the games menu loads.

I play a game, till bordom or I finish it

Then restart with CTRL & the two Amiga Keys.

It should boot back to the Games Menu?

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26 January 2010, 12:16	#21
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I take all your comments on board, the more I think of it now I will probably end up using it as a floppy based gaming machine Looking at a 1.3 / 3.1 rom switcher with roms & official wb3.1 disks @ approx £22 this seems like a good deal? Getting excited now

26 January 2010, 12:33	#22
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	A600 doesnt make a bad little second machine, playing floppys feels more right than on the A1200 and haveing to reboot after a game isnt that bad you have do that anyway with most ADos installs.

26 January 2010, 22:42	#26
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I went ahead an bought the Roms and switcher. It was £14 for just the 3.1 rom and 3.1 disks or £20 for the both roms (1.3 and 3.1) and switch kit. It was worth it for me as I only have a set of 3.0 workbench disks... Got my SRAM So all I need now is the 600 and I have my eye on a few

26 January 2010, 23:00	#27
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	You could still buy a 27C400 EPROM with the patched KS1.3 in it from the guy listed in Kipper2k's guide.

26 January 2010, 23:35	#28
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Thanks for the info Alex...

27 January 2010, 00:10	#29
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	You need to thank Kipper2K he did the research and write up.

27 January 2010, 00:13	#30
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	I just been reading through his post - he has put a lot of work in there! Cheers Kipper2K!!

30 January 2010, 14:49	#31
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Well... I've now setup my CF-IDE HD with Classic WB 68k added things like my SCSI drivers and WHDLoad key, setup DH1 for my HD Installed Games and DH2 or my WHDLoad games. Was just about to copy my games list straght accross from my A1200 and realised I had only the AGA versions of the games like, ArcadePool, Zool, etc Grrrr! So I had to start again with the ECS versions! A few hours later and I have a nice 1gb games list, I really hope that wont be too slow lol or I'll have to make a smaller fav's list on DH1... I've stuck with mostly 1 disk games like Silkwork, buggy boy, etc so I hope most will work with my 2mb SRAM card even if I can only get a 600 with 1mb ram. My 1.3 - 3.1 rom switch arrived so that ready to go in and will let me play any of my old floppy collection Quite a few auctions finishing tomorrow and next week so hopefully I will get a 600 soon enough Nice work on the 68k pack Bloodwych it may be stripped down but it isn't lacking anything I need, will miss Igame but I can live without it plus I made a fav's list for KGLoad a while back by using the same text format as the main list just stripped down and it works! Although yet to test with 68k but I am hopeful Steve.

30 January 2010, 16:08	#32
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Thanks for the update fixsteve! KG hasn't released KGLoad for ECS yet - he has got an ECS version in mind and that link is for future support. At the moment it doesn't work. So it's the list launchers only, but as you know they work quite well. You can also launch games from within Dopus using IconLoad and of course good old drawer launching!

30 January 2010, 17:02	#34
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	All Amigas are 68k - Ive never tried but there is an OCS beta of KGLoad and AGS. KGLoad AGS-OCS With limited memory using the games original installs if they have one will work a lot better -Good luck with your Setup

06 February 2010, 15:31	#36
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	My A600 arrived Not installed the 1.3-3.1 switch yet, will do that tomorrow. There is already a 3.1 rom in there so I was able to test 68k and it looks superb on the real A600, runs a little slow but perhaps I'm just used to 030 power lol Played a couple of games, I definatly over populated the games list as it takes about 30 seconds maybe more to open so I think I will do a top 50 or something Heres some pics for you to enjoy: Steve.

06 February 2010, 16:39	#37
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Nice pics Steve. Can you try the RAD: boot (holding left mouse button on boot and selecting RADboot->Gamesmenu). See if it soft-resets back into the gamesmenu when you hit the magical three keys.....should be a good way around the quit key issues.

07 February 2010, 01:03	#39
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Strange, RAD: is meant to stay resident on reboot. It recovers fine in WinUAE.

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