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Old 18 October 2021, 14:25   #1161
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Loads of news here: https://discord.gg/zKCeXxC6nU

Here's a general synopsis for anyone sticking to EAB:

-KK's working on stairs and variable height, fixing loads of bugs, taking in community feedback and expanding the tool and options for mapmakers. A new video is planned to be released at some point, picking up from where we left it.

-I'm continuing expansion of the assets, latest mapmaking SDK has almost quadruple the amount of textures released with the first demo, plus a lot of new floor and ceiling colors and combinations.

-A lot of people from the community have started making new maps using the mapmaking SDK. Here's the latest release:
SDK download - http://devkk.net/files/dread/Dread-M...g-SDK-1926.zip
documentation wiki - http://devkk.net/wiki/index.php/Dreadtool

-A 'community map pack' will be released once we have enough maps ready. An official 'big demo' map is also planned to be released at some point from our part.

Thanks for the update! I never used Discord before, does it always need an app or does it also work via a browser?
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Old 18 October 2021, 14:28   #1162
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Thanks for the update! I never used Discord before, does it always need an app or does it also work via a browser?
Both, you can use an app (phone or desktop) or use the browser
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Old 18 October 2021, 15:56   #1163
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That variable floor height will be where this changes everything. We can finally see what doom looks like on an A500.

Are there still plans to allow palette changes in game?
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Old 18 October 2021, 17:26   #1164
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Are there still plans to allow palette changes in game?
Of course, but this applies to any Amiga game. Why should this be otherwise?
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Old 18 October 2021, 18:13   #1165
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Of course, but this applies to any Amiga game. Why should this be otherwise?

Because of the complications of having it happen in game, the player would have to be in a 'neutral' area or obviously everything would suddenly look wrong.
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Old 18 October 2021, 18:35   #1166
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That variable floor height will be where this changes everything. We can finally see what doom looks like on an A500.

Are there still plans to allow palette changes in game?
Here is two quick demo's of custom palette and textures in Dread engine and tool. (sorry for lowres video quality)

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Old 18 October 2021, 19:44   #1167
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Because of the complications of having it happen in game, the player would have to be in a 'neutral' area or obviously everything would suddenly look wrong.
Ah, you mean like in the same level then? Yeah, we've brainstormed about this with KK and Dennis. It is possible, though tricky.
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Old 18 October 2021, 20:07   #1168
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Actually the STE had a blitter. The ST models either didn't have it at all or in some revision had the slot available. The MegaST for instance did have it. The TT didn't have a blitter, either.
The TT/Falcon didn't need a blitter, as the combination of the CPU speed and newer shifter/Videl made it redundant.
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Old 19 October 2021, 15:15   #1169
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Ah, you mean like in the same level then? Yeah, we've brainstormed about this with KK and Dennis. It is possible, though tricky.

If you stick to 2 colours which remain the same, then I think creators could work with it. Just a little room/doors between palette areas. Opens up a lot of cool potential. It would certainly hide limitations in terms of porting over Doom maps etc.
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Old 19 October 2021, 15:40   #1170
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If you stick to 2 colours which remain the same, then I think creators could work with it. Just a little room/doors between palette areas. Opens up a lot of cool potential. It would certainly hide limitations in terms of porting over Doom maps etc.
You could always go the 'Turrican 1 level 1-1 background colour change' route and fade from one set of colours to the next gradually as you approach the area with new palette.

This will certainly be visible, but it never bothered me much to be honest - I kind of thought it gave the game character
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Old 20 October 2021, 14:42   #1171
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Yes, personally I like this gradual change, it sets the mood nicely.
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Old 20 October 2021, 14:49   #1172
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That variable floor height will be where this changes everything.
I already saw it (without enemies), and it looks freaking amazing
Imho, it moves way faster (on A500), then Doom on 030, although, I repeat, no enemies yet, and pixels are not 1x1.

Yeah, definitely "game changer", unfortunately I am not allowed to share it, but I can't wait KK shows, to all of you, how it looks with variable floors.

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Old 20 October 2021, 20:09   #1173
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@d4rk3lf : are you still working on your own medieval/fantastic level ?
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Old 21 October 2021, 11:34   #1174
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Yeah.
I plan to proceed, but must recreate everything from the scratch, because this textures I painted in Photoshop, and then just automatically converted to 16 colors (because I was impatient to see it in engine asap ).
Unfortunately (or fortunately ), due to increased freelancing work I got recently, I am unable to proceed yet.

The ultimate goal is that I will try making demo level for that Amiga challenge Cammy posted. Will try making some hybrid mix of action and adventure (with simple puzzles), for that demo level.
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Old 23 October 2021, 14:03   #1176
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Again, KK posted video on patreon, that I can't share unfortunately.
With stairs and everything (without enemies).
It's awesome, and he also shared exe so I could test it on my Aca 500 + on my real Amiga.
It's flowless on ACA, and so smooth, that it can't be smoother (still, KK video on emulated A500 is also impressive for the plain A500 with only 1MB RAM).

I'll share 2 pictures he posted officially on Discord for everyone:



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Again, KK posted video on patreon, that I can't share unfortunately.
With stairs and everything (without enemies).
It's awesome, and he also shared exe so I could test it on my Aca 500 + on my real Amiga.
It's flowless on ACA, and so smooth, that it can't be smoother (still, KK video on emulated A500 is also impressive for the plain A500 with only 1MB RAM).

I'll share 2 pictures he posted officially on Discord for everyone:
Looks great!!

medieval/fantastic level, what inspired that? That will be cool also. When you make this stuff in photoshop, then reduce to 16 colours is it then ready for Amiga just like that or do you need to format in a special way?

I've had a bash at making my own backgrounds and icons before but never turns out quite right. Well the backgrounds did but not the icons, text was all messed up!
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Old 23 October 2021, 14:53   #1178
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When you make this stuff in photoshop, then reduce to 16 colours is it then ready for Amiga just like that or do you need to format in a special way?
You have to translate all 16 colors to text file palette in Dread tools.
Copy paste each color.
LaBodilsen helped me greatly on that, as he gave me the link to convert the photoshop hex numbers to Amiga hex numbers.
http://neildowning.com/HEX_to_RGB_color_converter.php

So, you open indexed colors in Photoshop (16 maximum), and then:
1) Copy from PS
2) Paste to the above link, and copy new hex
3) Paste into the dread palette txt file (look in the attachment where)

You can do it manually too (if I understand correctly, you just skip every second number/letter).

Hopefully, soon KK will make tool just automatically load whole palette by loading single texture that are using it (he said it's no problem)
Also, KK gave me a tip, that it's often wise that first color in palette be black (he has other ways to handle transparency).
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Again, KK posted video on patreon, that I can't share unfortunately.
With stairs and everything (without enemies).
It's awesome, and he also shared exe so I could test it on my Aca 500 + on my real Amiga.
It's flowless on ACA, and so smooth, that it can't be smoother (still, KK video on emulated A500 is also impressive for the plain A500 with only 1MB RAM).

I'll share 2 pictures he posted officially on Discord for everyone:




Ha! It had to be done!
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Old 23 October 2021, 15:29   #1180
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For lols I think there is also a Quake conversion to Doom, just to see it looking like Quake on an A500 would be brilliant.
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