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Old 08 May 2021, 15:50   #1
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Sequels quite different from the original

Normally is exactly the opposite, but also on Amiga there should be...

was re-playing a little with Switchblade II, and this indeed has generated the question
so much different from the original (og that i like a ton more, to be clear)
not a bad game but again, another game, almost zero og Switchblade references in...

Do you like when a sequel is so much different?
Do you remember other examples of that kind on Amiga?
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Old 08 May 2021, 16:36   #2
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I think it's perfectly fine as long as they turn out as good or better than their precursor.

Not a good example of this, but Popeye 3 is a terrible wrestling game, while Popeye 2 is a mediocre platformer. Popeye 1 doesn't even exist on the Amiga, though kind of does on the 8-bit systems.

RoboCod dispensed with most of James Pond's underwater levels and introduced vehicles and an insane speed boost.

Gauntlet III went isometric, leading on from two top-down arcade ports.

One Step Beyond features a new protagonist sprite and revamped mechanics, to its detriment in my opinion. Not so fondly remembered that one. Never met a Colin Curley fan!

The Bubble Bobble series kicked our expectations to the curb with each successive release. I think they improve chronologically, personally. Ooh 'eck, controversial!

Robocop 3 went 3D. This has never appealed to me one iota. It's a bit like opening your Christmas presents then playing with the boxes... under water.
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Old 08 May 2021, 17:19   #3
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Chaos Engine 2 is totally different (and not as good) as the first one. They even recycled some tiles from level 1, but those who expected something similar were really disappointed (I was)
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Old 08 May 2021, 18:53   #4
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Battle command was way to different to carrier command.
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Old 08 May 2021, 18:57   #5
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Dune - Adventure + Strategy
Dune 2 - Real time strategy

I love them both still
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Old 08 May 2021, 19:33   #6
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...The Bubble Bobble series kicked our expectations to the curb with each successive release. I think they improve chronologically, personally. Ooh 'eck, controversial!
yes, arguable
for me is the opposite, still prefer the first over the others
and also my order of liking strangely follows the chronologically release
1 - Bubble Bobble , very close 2 - Rainbow Islands, and imo quite distant 3 - Parasol Stars

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Chaos Engine 2 is totally different (and not as good) as the first one. They even recycled some tiles from level 1, but those who expected something similar were really disappointed (I was)
to not talk of that imo randomly color palette, a lot of colors but misused

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Wizkid was very different to Wizball. I found Wizball extremely difficult and frustrating where as Wizkid was quite easy to get into, pretty weird and wacky really unlike anything else.

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Return of the Jedi was a big change from the first two games.

Others, Wonderboy in Monsterland, Kid Gloves 2, Robocop 3.
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Dune II is a sequel to Dune in name only .Both game were developed concurrently and Westwood had to change their title to Dune II because Cryo didn't cancel their game Dune as was originally expected.

I would like to list the two top-down BattleTech games. The Crescent Hawk's Inception is an open-world roleplaying game with random combat encounters, while the sequel The Crescent Hawk's Revenge dithes to roleplaying aspect completely and is just a linear series of combat scenarios.
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I would like to list the two top-down BattleTech games. The Crescent Hawk's Inception is an open-world roleplaying game with random combat encounters, while the sequel The Crescent Hawk's Revenge dithes to roleplaying aspect completely and is just a linear series of combat scenarios.

I was going to mention this earlier, but the sequel wasn't on the Amiga. Note both Dune series and Battletech are made by Westwood Associates. Is Crescent Hawks' Revenge worth playing if one liked the RPG style of the original?
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Super Tetris changes the objective from original Tetris
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Old 09 May 2021, 11:51   #12
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...Kid Gloves 2
Completely forgot this one, indeed a big jump
a single screen puzzle platform (more or less) the first one
a Wonderboy clone his sequel

i prefer the second
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I was going to mention this earlier, but the sequel wasn't on the Amiga. Note both Dune series and Battletech are made by Westwood Associates. Is Crescent Hawks' Revenge worth playing if one liked the RPG style of the original?
Good call, I didn't realize the sequel was not released on the Amiga.

While I found the first part to be an ok game and up until the Tactical BattleTech game from Harebrained Schemes released a few years ago, it was the only official way to have a tactical BattleMech combat experience like the tabletop game. The sequel was nothling like it, from wehat I remember it was even in a sort-of real-time mode. I didn't enjoy it at all because it really was just a series of battles. The graphics were even worse than the first part, too
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Chaos Engine 2 is totally different (and not as good) as the first one. They even recycled some tiles from level 1, but those who expected something similar were really disappointed (I was)
CE2 was never made.

Never, I tells ya!
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Kid Gloves II is technically a totally different game to Kid Gloves I. It just shares the name for marketing reasons.
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CE2 was never made.

Never, I tells ya!
Ah!, i must apply this also to other disappointing titles i wrongly (from now) thought released lol

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about Switchblade II, today i was re-trying the previous game of that team, Venus the Flytrap
and not surprisingly, i can say that despite the different genre, there are indeed a couple of things in common

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Nicky II is very different to Nicky Boum.

And note Xenon vs Xenon 2 - Magablast, or Silkworm vs SWIV.
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Why does it have to be Amiga? I can count a few sequels I despised on modern-day PC!

Half-Life 2 SUCKED in comparison to Half-Life

Doom Eternal SUCKED in comparison to Doom 2016

Doom 64 SUCKED in comparison to proper id Software Dooms

And yet I get hate for saying this. I just hated the direction the gamemakers went in.
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Nicky II is very different to Nicky Boum.

And note Xenon vs Xenon 2 - Magablast, or Silkworm vs SWIV.
i'm loosing many points forgetting Xenon, Silkworm and respective sequels

atm i'm thinking also at Kick Off 3, but here i'll use the @Lord Aga method, surely it was never released

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Why does it have to be Amiga? I can count a few sequels I despised on modern-day PC!

Half-Life 2 SUCKED in comparison to Half-Life...
also other hardware? why not, it's just that i'm not a great Windows player, due my crappy PC; i missed many big titles so i can't argue with many of them...
but i still clearly remember my disappoint trying San Andreas, as a GTA3 and Vice City avid player... something changed, in worse imo

differently than you, i like more Half Life 2; two milestones, but the second imo fit perfectly with the game title; different games indeed

just consider that not necessarily should be disappointing sequels, even that in most cases this match; i would like to talk about different sequels, and how they should be made
i.e. atm i am considering Another World - Flashback, imo one of the best examples in how a sequel should be... possibly the better one, on Amiga?
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Flashback is not a sequel of Another World. The sequel is "Heart of the Alien"
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