Wich Lotus do you pick? - Page 2

tjo · 13 August 2004, 09:59

The first one, definitely. I think that competing against the clock was a bad move in Lotus 2. The computer-generated tracks in Lotus 3 obviously lacked human design.

I think the AI (or lack thereof) in the Lotus series is most disturbing. The fact that the computer drivers can't lap each other causes them to slow down considerably on most races.

I liked many design ideas in Jaguar XJ-220 but not the look and feel.

fiath · 13 August 2004, 10:12

I remember the AI - the constant move of cars in your direction was freaking annoying! Though I guess they would do that to some extent to stop you getting past...

Shoonay · 13 August 2004, 17:51

Lotus Three is the best for me...

...others...
Jaguar XJ 220

sarek2k · 14 August 2004, 00:35

@Fiath in my opinion an AI that constantly puts cars in your way is cheating so it's only right u do it back

tjo · 14 August 2004, 08:32

I don't think the cars were moving specifically at the player's direction - just from one side of the road to the other.

Oh, and the first computer driver is very annoying when suddenly slowing down without apparent reason. I assume that it gets "too close" to the last driver (sometimes the last driver accelerates just as suddenly).

EmuChicken · 14 August 2004, 09:29

pretty much a split choice between lotus 1 and 2, but chose lotus 2 as I didnt have to use relokick on my a500+ to run it!

Lotus 3 - total letdown, seriously, the songs and radio, alreet, but the feel just made it feel like it was a load of random courses, not enough excitement in comparison of the first two :-)

BTW> the computer cars did just bounce from one side of the track to the other- hehe! Ai rox0rz!

Maybe have a "best racer" poll on the miggy?

Drake1009 · 14 August 2004, 11:06

Lotus 2 didn't have an unlimited supply of cars I know. With a friend we used to use the unlimited time cheat. In the night level (level 2) we usually just let ourselves stay on the starting line for a minute or so, then you could drive through the level without bumping into any traffic except the opponent.

Marcuz · 14 August 2004, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

Maybe have a "best racer" poll on the miggy?

nice idea: who volounteers?

anyway, i don't agree on AI, it is pretty much the same on all of the similar games from that era, but i didn't find it bothering, in fact zig-zaging and getting in the line of my brother following me to keep him from surpassing me was precisely what i was doing all the time he was on sight

Mick_AKA · 16 August 2004, 09:24

I have some great memories of playing Lotus 3, so had to be that. Great game!

Muzkat · 19 August 2004, 13:05

Lotus 3 for me. Like others have said, it combined the best of its predecessors, and it just had everything. I loved the green car, and the radio.

redblade · 19 August 2004, 13:36

lotus 2. First one I played, I quite liked the tunes as well. The turbo was nice, and the liverpool stage was cool when you went under the trucks.

lotus 1, one was nice, nice theme music, and nice .nz import txt at the start of it.

Marcuz · 19 August 2004, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

lotus 1, one was nice, nice theme music, and nice .nz import txt at the start of it.

mm what do you mean? the original version was ndos so no way to know what was in the disk, but maybe you are talking about something else?

DisposableHero · 28 November 2004, 00:26

I can't believe anyone has chosen Lotus 3. It was horrendously slow (especially the mountain stages), lacked atmosphere, had some appalling level designs (completely random, so there was no diffiuclty curve within them), some poor design ideas (lap-based races against the clock especially, as you were just doing the exact same thing lap after lap), the new course designs were bland, and the 4-player mode was gone.

Lotus 2 is my favourite - fast, varied, smooth and exciting. the good thing about raicng against the clock was the late drama it triggered as you tried to beat the checkpoint. Lotus 1 is among the top 5 Amiga races as well in my book though.

Locash · 05 December 2004, 21:38

Lotus 2 without a doubt, playing 4 player with 2 Amigas linked via null modem cable. One of the best multiplayer games on the system

MSC · 06 December 2004, 02:34

Lotus 1 for me. Although 2 was more polished, i found 1 more fun, especially with friends. Other favorites are Domarks F1, (especially on a 1200) and if we are not picky about the vehicle, Super Hang On.

Freakyweakywoo · 06 December 2004, 17:24

2 for me, it was way better than 1 and I got bored of the series by the time 3 came along.

alkis21 · 07 December 2004, 12:21

Another vote for Jaguar XJ 220

But if I had to choose, I'd choose #2 for the option to play a single game player in full screen.

TheFoxSoft · 07 December 2004, 16:31

I pick Lotus 1. It was the best for 2 players competition.
3 different championships and a lot of fun!

thechap · 07 December 2004, 16:58

I dropped out of Uni because I played Lotus II and Kick Off II too much (and drank too much, and smoked too much and never went to lectures), so strangely enough my vote goes to Lotus II.

Codetapper · 07 December 2004, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

mm what do you mean? the original version was ndos so no way to know what was in the disk, but maybe you are talking about something else?

The commonly spread version in NZ was the crack by Genesis where the entire game was put back to files like GENESIS_01 - so the crack was Dos. NOMAD then did an AGA fixed version based on the Genesis version which was also spread (and was HD installable!)

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13 August 2004, 17:51	#23
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Best Lotus game and others... Lotus Three is the best for me... ...others... Jaguar XJ 220

06 December 2004, 02:34	#35
MSC Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Age: 52 Posts: 137	Lotus 1 for me. Although 2 was more polished, i found 1 more fun, especially with friends. Other favorites are Domarks F1, (especially on a 1200) and if we are not picky about the vehicle, Super Hang On. Last edited by Paul; 06 December 2004 at 11:10. Reason: deleted a direct signature

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13 August 2004, 09:59	#21
tjo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 13	The first one, definitely. I think that competing against the clock was a bad move in Lotus 2. The computer-generated tracks in Lotus 3 obviously lacked human design. I think the AI (or lack thereof) in the Lotus series is most disturbing. The fact that the computer drivers can't lap each other causes them to slow down considerably on most races. I liked many design ideas in Jaguar XJ-220 but not the look and feel.

13 August 2004, 10:12	#22
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	I remember the AI - the constant move of cars in your direction was freaking annoying! Though I guess they would do that to some extent to stop you getting past...

14 August 2004, 00:35	#24
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	@Fiath in my opinion an AI that constantly puts cars in your way is cheating so it's only right u do it back

14 August 2004, 08:32	#25
tjo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 13	I don't think the cars were moving specifically at the player's direction - just from one side of the road to the other. Oh, and the first computer driver is very annoying when suddenly slowing down without apparent reason. I assume that it gets "too close" to the last driver (sometimes the last driver accelerates just as suddenly).

14 August 2004, 09:29	#26
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	pretty much a split choice between lotus 1 and 2, but chose lotus 2 as I didnt have to use relokick on my a500+ to run it! Lotus 3 - total letdown, seriously, the songs and radio, alreet, but the feel just made it feel like it was a load of random courses, not enough excitement in comparison of the first two :-) BTW> the computer cars did just bounce from one side of the track to the other- hehe! Ai rox0rz! Maybe have a "best racer" poll on the miggy?

14 August 2004, 11:06	#27
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Lotus 2 didn't have an unlimited supply of cars I know. With a friend we used to use the unlimited time cheat. In the night level (level 2) we usually just let ourselves stay on the starting line for a minute or so, then you could drive through the level without bumping into any traffic except the opponent.

16 August 2004, 09:24	#29
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	I have some great memories of playing Lotus 3, so had to be that. Great game!

19 August 2004, 13:05	#30
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,426	Lotus 3 for me. Like others have said, it combined the best of its predecessors, and it just had everything. I loved the green car, and the radio.

19 August 2004, 13:36	#31
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	lotus 2. First one I played, I quite liked the tunes as well. The turbo was nice, and the liverpool stage was cool when you went under the trucks. lotus 1, one was nice, nice theme music, and nice .nz import txt at the start of it.

28 November 2004, 00:26	#33
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	I can't believe anyone has chosen Lotus 3. It was horrendously slow (especially the mountain stages), lacked atmosphere, had some appalling level designs (completely random, so there was no diffiuclty curve within them), some poor design ideas (lap-based races against the clock especially, as you were just doing the exact same thing lap after lap), the new course designs were bland, and the 4-player mode was gone. Lotus 2 is my favourite - fast, varied, smooth and exciting. the good thing about raicng against the clock was the late drama it triggered as you tried to beat the checkpoint. Lotus 1 is among the top 5 Amiga races as well in my book though.

05 December 2004, 21:38	#34
Locash Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny Wales Posts: 100	Lotus 2 without a doubt, playing 4 player with 2 Amigas linked via null modem cable. One of the best multiplayer games on the system

06 December 2004, 17:24	#36
Freakyweakywoo (c) killergorilla 2007 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United States Posts: 276	2 for me, it was way better than 1 and I got bored of the series by the time 3 came along.

07 December 2004, 12:21	#37
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Another vote for Jaguar XJ 220 But if I had to choose, I'd choose #2 for the option to play a single game player in full screen.

07 December 2004, 16:31	#38
TheFoxSoft KO2 world champion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rome (Italy) Age: 44 Posts: 99	I pick Lotus 1. It was the best for 2 players competition. 3 different championships and a lot of fun!

07 December 2004, 16:58	#39
thechap Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 50 Posts: 14	I dropped out of Uni because I played Lotus II and Kick Off II too much (and drank too much, and smoked too much and never went to lectures), so strangely enough my vote goes to Lotus II.

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