Speedball 2, A1200

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 19:21

Howdy folks.

I've had my A1200 (recapped, P5 030 with 128Mb) for over a year and have mostly been programming for it, never tried a game.

I just took the urge to play Speedball2 as it was one of my favourites from 199x and so bought on eBay Speedball and Speedball2 disks and a Quickshot joystick.

Speedball is marked as "for the A1000, A500 and A2000", Speedball2 just says "amiga".

On booting from the floppies Speedball does, essentially nothing. Screen goes blank (like SCART TV cuts off no signal) and it just sits there.

Speedball2 boots to the music and titles, and I can even get to the menus and into the initial "armor loadout" screen, but as soon as a game starts (even demo game) the screen again cuts out and it just sits there.

I know I can disable the P5 board by holding 2, so I've tried that and no joy. Though it occurred to me that disabling the board means no Fast RAM, only 2Mb chip.

Is this a known issue? Is there anything I need to do to make this work? Is it just that I need to find a special AGA version ? I'm sure I played Speedball2 on my A1200 back in the nineties (though I had a 500 before that so maybe am misremembering).

Any suggestions welcome.... I'm not really bothegred about Speedball, Its SB2 that I really want to get working.

Alan

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 19:24

Retro-Nerd · 12 July 2021, 19:36

This Speedball 1 version is a budget re-release as it seems.

For Speedball 2: There are AGA fixed versions. Download a version labeled with [f AGA].

http://www.oldgamesfinder.com/?q=Speedball+2&m=-3

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 19:39

Good lord thats a lot of options :-) So I pick one of those (non-CD32) ADFs and burn to a floppy ?

Retro-Nerd · 12 July 2021, 19:42

Yep, should work fine. Unless the turbocard causes some trouble. I don't know for sure.

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Yep, should work fine. Unless the turbocard causes some trouble. I don't know for sure.

Thanks! Will give it a go.

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 20:13

Yay! thanks so much.

Retro-Nerd · 12 July 2021, 20:17

So, it works? Then have fun.

BarryB · 12 July 2021, 21:17

Might be better off with a CF Card + IDE adapter, prep it as a HDD and install WB to it then use WHDLoad!! If you already have a HDD setup then just install WHDLoad and use the WHDLoad installers to install those originals to HDD!

Galahad/FLT · 12 July 2021, 21:32

Speedball 2 cracked DC f aga works fine.

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Speedball 2 cracked DC f aga works fine.

Just a bit confused as I was sure I had played it on an A1200 back in the day but I must be misremembering.

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Might be better off with a CF Card + IDE adapter, prep it as a HDD and install WB to it then use WHDLoad!! If you already have a HDD setup then just install WHDLoad and use the WHDLoad installers to install those originals to HDD!

Every single time I have tried to look at WHDLoad I just get confused. Since I mostly use the Amiga for programming I'm not *that* bothered. There were just a couple of games I remember enjoying - SB2, Alien Breed, New Zealand Story - so was looking to just buy floppies on eBay for occasional play.

jotd · 12 July 2021, 22:23

if you have a hard drive, running games with whdload is very simple, specially if you download pre-installed packs. The icon of the packs are associated to "c:whdload", so just download packs, download whdload, install whdload in C: and enjoy.

alancfrancis · 12 July 2021, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

if you have a hard drive, running games with whdload is very simple, specially if you download pre-installed packs. The icon of the packs are associated to "c:whdload", so just download packs, download whdload, install whdload in C: and enjoy.

I can never figure out if it’s pirated games or if I need floppies of the games or what. I feel ok with my now cracked speedball2 because I bought an original, but really I bought it off some bloke on eBay so it’s not like the bitmap brothers get money from my purchase.

I’m morally conflicted ?

Galahad/FLT · 12 July 2021, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by alancfrancis

Just a bit confused as I was sure I had played it on an A1200 back in the day but I must be misremembering.

Several fixed versions appeared soon after people realised it was the copy protection that stopped it working.

Unfortunately the most popular crack by Crystal still utilised the original protection routines which worked fine on a500, but not on a1200.

Also I did a cover disk patch for Amiga Format which is maybe where you remember it from

BarryB · 13 July 2021, 00:20

Quote:

Also I did a cover disk patch for Amiga Format which is maybe where you remember it from

Amiga Format Issue 49 (Page 7) & patches are on Coverdisk 49!

Galahad/FLT · 13 July 2021, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Amiga Format Issue 49 (Page 7) & patches are on Coverdisk 49!

Stardust issue if memory serves me right

Bitmaps were not happy about that fix lol

12 July 2021, 19:21	#1
alancfrancis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 146	Speedball 2, A1200 Howdy folks. I've had my A1200 (recapped, P5 030 with 128Mb) for over a year and have mostly been programming for it, never tried a game. I just took the urge to play Speedball2 as it was one of my favourites from 199x and so bought on eBay Speedball and Speedball2 disks and a Quickshot joystick. Speedball is marked as "for the A1000, A500 and A2000", Speedball2 just says "amiga". On booting from the floppies Speedball does, essentially nothing. Screen goes blank (like SCART TV cuts off no signal) and it just sits there. Speedball2 boots to the music and titles, and I can even get to the menus and into the initial "armor loadout" screen, but as soon as a game starts (even demo game) the screen again cuts out and it just sits there. I know I can disable the P5 board by holding 2, so I've tried that and no joy. Though it occurred to me that disabling the board means no Fast RAM, only 2Mb chip. Is this a known issue? Is there anything I need to do to make this work? Is it just that I need to find a special AGA version ? I'm sure I played Speedball2 on my A1200 back in the nineties (though I had a 500 before that so maybe am misremembering). Any suggestions welcome.... I'm not really bothegred about Speedball, Its SB2 that I really want to get working. Alan

12 July 2021, 19:24	#2
alancfrancis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 146	I also noticed that Speedball Disk is copyright 1991, whereas SB2 is 1990, which seems odd. Attached Thumbnails

12 July 2021, 19:36	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	This Speedball 1 version is a budget re-release as it seems. For Speedball 2: There are AGA fixed versions. Download a version labeled with [f AGA]. http://www.oldgamesfinder.com/?q=Speedball+2&m=-3 Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 12 July 2021 at 19:48.

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12 July 2021, 19:39	#4
alancfrancis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 146	Good lord thats a lot of options :-) So I pick one of those (non-CD32) ADFs and burn to a floppy ?

12 July 2021, 19:42	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Yep, should work fine. Unless the turbocard causes some trouble. I don't know for sure.

12 July 2021, 20:13	#7
alancfrancis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 146	Yay! thanks so much.

12 July 2021, 20:17	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	So, it works? Then have fun.

12 July 2021, 21:17	#9
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Might be better off with a CF Card + IDE adapter, prep it as a HDD and install WB to it then use WHDLoad!! If you already have a HDD setup then just install WHDLoad and use the WHDLoad installers to install those originals to HDD!

12 July 2021, 21:32	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Speedball 2 cracked DC f aga works fine.

12 July 2021, 22:23	#13
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	if you have a hard drive, running games with whdload is very simple, specially if you download pre-installed packs. The icon of the packs are associated to "c:whdload", so just download packs, download whdload, install whdload in C: and enjoy.

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