Whats Wrong ?!

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 21:04

i just got my A600 its amazing , all those memories... well i also got some old backups but i think there is a problem with them am not sure..

when i try to play speedball 2 , it loads till the first now loading sign appears then when its complete it just stops responding (colored lines appear on the screen) .. anyone knows if i could fix it before throwing it away? its also the same thing with Superfrog ..

Retro-Nerd · 08 January 2006, 21:07

because of the ECS chipset? Have you tried the amiga early startup control. Press both mousebuttons and make a restart. Hold down the buttons until the menu is shown.

It looks like this: Go to the Display options and choose the OCS chipset.

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

because of the ECS chipset?

Solution/s please?

stainy · 08 January 2006, 21:21

Do what Retro says !!

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 21:34

when i do that only the boot menu appears , it says D0 ,CC0 and DF1 and when i clicked on Advanced options its the same thing but next to each word it says ENABLED

i can't get the menu that u showed me above

??

Retro-Nerd · 08 January 2006, 21:36

mmh, i thought the A600 has the same startup menu as the A1200. Which kickstart version to you have?

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 21:38

i don't know , how can i check?

Retro-Nerd · 08 January 2006, 21:39

when you boot the machine without a disk inside the drive.

Chain · 08 January 2006, 21:39

a600 have often only 2.04/2.5 kick

so he cannot switch back to OCS form earlystartup

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 21:39

2.0 Roms (37.299)

Chain · 08 January 2006, 21:41

.299 :/ very bad rom release

Retro-Nerd · 08 January 2006, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

a600 have often only 2.04/2.5 kick

so he cannot switch back to OCS form earlystartup

will this only work with a 3.X Kickstart, chain?

SWOS · 08 January 2006, 22:23

any1 knows whats wrong with the games?

Retro-Nerd · 08 January 2006, 22:42

Most of the amiga games was written for the OCS Chip which can be found in the A500 or A1000. The A1200 has also problems with some games, but with the amiga early startup control menu you can disable the cpu caches and it is possible to change the chipset from AGA to OCS or ECS.

I guess there is no solution for your problem. Maybe a kickstart upgrade to an 3.X could help. In Germany the A600 & A3000 machines were a big flop because of their imcompatibleness with a lot of amiga games. All the people that i knew had a A500 or later a A1200 in those days.

stainy · 08 January 2006, 22:52

Oopsie yeah your right! forgot you can`t get to that option screen on a A600

What about relokick ?

Chain · 08 January 2006, 23:02

rekicking? if he have only 1meg chipram?, i think there are only two solutions:

1) get a ROM 3.1 (or hardware rom switch)
2) get more memory

btw maybe speedball2 needs FAST ram.
...there was little proggie called FakeFast, but i dont know if it works for games too.

i will try to run speedball2 on my (also unexpanded) A600 tomorrow, we will see...

Galahad/FLT · 09 January 2006, 01:36

Speedball 2 works on 512k chip ram, 512k chip ram/512k slow fast, 512k chip ram and 512k chip ram.

andreas · 09 January 2006, 05:56

LOL

Chain · 09 January 2006, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Speedball 2 works on 512k chip ram, 512k chip ram/512k slow fast, 512k chip ram and 512k chip ram.

512k chip ram and 512k chip ram

so maybe thereis a problem with 2.x kick

Galahad/FLT · 09 January 2006, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

512k chip ram and 512k chip ram

so maybe thereis a problem with 2.x kick

Should have said 1meg chip ram!

08 January 2006, 21:04	#1
SWOS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Q8 Age: 39 Posts: 160	Whats Wrong ?! i just got my A600 its amazing , all those memories... well i also got some old backups but i think there is a problem with them am not sure.. when i try to play speedball 2 , it loads till the first now loading sign appears then when its complete it just stops responding (colored lines appear on the screen) .. anyone knows if i could fix it before throwing it away? its also the same thing with Superfrog ..

08 January 2006, 21:07	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,467	because of the ECS chipset? Have you tried the amiga early startup control. Press both mousebuttons and make a restart. Hold down the buttons until the menu is shown. It looks like this: Go to the Display options and choose the OCS chipset. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 08 January 2006 at 21:34.

08 January 2006, 22:42	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,467	Most of the amiga games was written for the OCS Chip which can be found in the A500 or A1000. The A1200 has also problems with some games, but with the amiga early startup control menu you can disable the cpu caches and it is possible to change the chipset from AGA to OCS or ECS. I guess there is no solution for your problem. Maybe a kickstart upgrade to an 3.X could help. In Germany the A600 & A3000 machines were a big flop because of their imcompatibleness with a lot of amiga games. All the people that i knew had a A500 or later a A1200 in those days. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 08 January 2006 at 22:50.

08 January 2006, 23:02	#16
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	rekicking? if he have only 1meg chipram?, i think there are only two solutions: 1) get a ROM 3.1 (or hardware rom switch) 2) get more memory btw maybe speedball2 needs FAST ram. ...there was little proggie called FakeFast, but i dont know if it works for games too. i will try to run speedball2 on my (also unexpanded) A600 tomorrow, we will see... Last edited by Chain; 09 January 2006 at 00:26.

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stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,714	Do what Retro says !!

08 January 2006, 21:34	#5
SWOS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Q8 Age: 39 Posts: 160	when i do that only the boot menu appears , it says D0 ,CC0 and DF1 and when i clicked on Advanced options its the same thing but next to each word it says ENABLED i can't get the menu that u showed me above ??

08 January 2006, 21:36	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,467	mmh, i thought the A600 has the same startup menu as the A1200. Which kickstart version to you have?

08 January 2006, 21:38	#7
SWOS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Q8 Age: 39 Posts: 160	i don't know , how can i check?

08 January 2006, 21:39	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,467	when you boot the machine without a disk inside the drive.

08 January 2006, 21:39	#9
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	a600 have often only 2.04/2.5 kick so he cannot switch back to OCS form earlystartup

08 January 2006, 21:41	#11
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	.299 :/ very bad rom release

08 January 2006, 22:23	#13
SWOS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Q8 Age: 39 Posts: 160	any1 knows whats wrong with the games?

08 January 2006, 22:52	#15
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,714	Oopsie yeah your right! forgot you can`t get to that option screen on a A600 What about relokick ?

09 January 2006, 01:36	#17
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,018	Speedball 2 works on 512k chip ram, 512k chip ram/512k slow fast, 512k chip ram and 512k chip ram.

09 January 2006, 05:56	#18
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	LOL

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