Many WHDLoad games don't work anymore.

alkis21 · 06 April 2007, 20:12

For some reason, a number of WHDLoad games does not work anymore in my Amiga.
I'm using what I think it the latest version (16.7), and I own an 1200 with 10MBs RAM, Workbench 3.1.
These days, only one out of two WHDLoad games I download works. The weird thing is that already installed games that used to work before no longer do. Usually I get one of the two problems:

-A black screen is displayed, it never goes away
-The game starts loading, then the graphics freeze

I downloaded most of my games from Amiga Magix and other websites that offer already made WHD installs, but I also have some that I installed myself from original disks.

The only change I can think of that I did in my Amiga at the time the problems began was the installation of SUBWAY. This gave me two USB ports; I have a 512MB USB stick permanently inserted in the first port, which serves as a second hard drive, and I use the other port to insert a second USB drive for file transfers. Could this be causing the problem? Why do some installs work and others don't?

Any help would be appreciated.

Mad-Matt · 06 April 2007, 20:21

im not familiar with the way the subway drivers work but maybe additional interupt handlers are messing with whd in the same way elbox drivers/tcp stack can. the med has switches to sort this out. the only whd tooltype i can think of that may help you is NoAutovec.

keropi · 06 April 2007, 20:25

it is a known issue, that when Poseidon Stack is loaded whdload does not work!
just go to Trident and turn it off, then play as usual!

alkis21 · 06 April 2007, 20:27

I already tried NoAutoVec, it doesn't help.

keropi · 06 April 2007, 20:29

what??? just go to trident and press the All Offline button....
poseidon does not work with whdload.

AMIGAZ · 06 April 2007, 20:37

Same thing happens if you have a mediator PCI board and not set VoodooINT to "NO"

having an TCP/IP stack running can also cause problem with whdload, it's a known fact

alkis21 · 06 April 2007, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

it is a known issue, that when Poseidon Stack is loaded whdload does not work!
just go to Trident and turn it off, then play as usual!

Oh my God it WORKED!
All this time and it never crossed my mind to simply turn it off!
On the downside, I can no longer install games in the Flash drive.. but who cares! I'll just have to see what works there and free some HD space.

I appreciate it, dear compatriot.

I'm off to download some goodies.

P. S. By the way, it's not true that Poseidon does not work with WHDLoad. I have plenty of games that work - it just won't work with ALL of them.

keropi · 06 April 2007, 20:41

yes, but for 100% success I only activate PSD when needed

Mad-Matt · 06 April 2007, 20:45

idealy, you could work out what commands are needed to turn it on/off from the commandline and add it to the whd start/stop scripts, so whd will do the turning on and off for you.

keropi · 06 April 2007, 20:55

psdstack loader has options for shell load/unload.... all is described in the Poseidon help....

alkis21 · 07 April 2007, 11:37

OK, I'll admit I'm stumped. How do I turn off Poseidon with DOS commands?
I want to make some neat executable files that will disable the USB ports before running a game. Running Trident and clicking on Offline is not that time consuming, but it seems like too much data for my wife to remember in order to play BC Kid. Ideally, I want her to be able to go to Start->Games->Action->BC Kid and start playing. She recently completed Skweek and Superfrog and she's begging me for new challenges!

keropi · 07 April 2007, 12:58

piece of cake...
edit whdload.prefs and change the 2 options below so they look like this:

Code:

ExecuteStartup=sys:c/AddUSBHardware REMOVE ALL ;rx offline.rexx  ;command to execute on WHDLoad startup
ExecuteCleanup=sys:prefs/env-archive/PsdStackLoader        ;rx online.rexx   ;command to execute on WHDLoad exit

now all is done automatically in every whdload start/stop

keropi · 07 April 2007, 13:06

or use those scripts with icons I made for my amigas, I put them on Amidock...

kriz · 07 April 2007, 13:17

Cool Keropi, any similar tips for MiamiDx ?

keropi · 07 April 2007, 13:22

I don't know... if there is a DOS command to go online/offline u could add it to the whdload.prefs.... I use genesis that comes with 3,9 and I only use tcp to transfer files to the amiga from my pc...

AMIGAZ · 07 April 2007, 13:28

For mediator users elbox game me some stuff to use with whdload.prefs

We should gather all these commands and add them to www.whdload.de

killergorilla · 07 April 2007, 13:49

The list would be theoritically endless though as you can execute anything you like when whdload starts/ends.

AMIGAZ · 07 April 2007, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

The list would be theoritically endless though as you can execute anything you like when whdload starts/ends.

Indeed but the mediator, poseidon and TCP/IP stack stuff is quite "basic" and widely used

alkis21 · 07 April 2007, 14:22

Thanks again Keropi.

Bamiga2002 · 26 August 2009, 11:51

Thanks for this advice

, was beginning to wonder what's the prob with WHD...

06 April 2007, 20:12	#1
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	Many WHDLoad games don't work anymore. For some reason, a number of WHDLoad games does not work anymore in my Amiga. I'm using what I think it the latest version (16.7), and I own an 1200 with 10MBs RAM, Workbench 3.1. These days, only one out of two WHDLoad games I download works. The weird thing is that already installed games that used to work before no longer do. Usually I get one of the two problems: -A black screen is displayed, it never goes away -The game starts loading, then the graphics freeze I downloaded most of my games from Amiga Magix and other websites that offer already made WHD installs, but I also have some that I installed myself from original disks. The only change I can think of that I did in my Amiga at the time the problems began was the installation of SUBWAY. This gave me two USB ports; I have a 512MB USB stick permanently inserted in the first port, which serves as a second hard drive, and I use the other port to insert a second USB drive for file transfers. Could this be causing the problem? Why do some installs work and others don't? Any help would be appreciated.

06 April 2007, 20:21	#2
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,853	im not familiar with the way the subway drivers work but maybe additional interupt handlers are messing with whd in the same way elbox drivers/tcp stack can. the med has switches to sort this out. the only whd tooltype i can think of that may help you is NoAutovec. Last edited by Mad-Matt; 06 April 2007 at 20:26.

07 April 2007, 12:58	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	piece of cake... edit whdload.prefs and change the 2 options below so they look like this: Code: ExecuteStartup=sys:c/AddUSBHardware REMOVE ALL ;rx offline.rexx ;command to execute on WHDLoad startup ExecuteCleanup=sys:prefs/env-archive/PsdStackLoader ;rx online.rexx ;command to execute on WHDLoad exit now all is done automatically in every whdload start/stop

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06 April 2007, 20:25	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	it is a known issue, that when Poseidon Stack is loaded whdload does not work! just go to Trident and turn it off, then play as usual!

06 April 2007, 20:27	#4
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	I already tried NoAutoVec, it doesn't help.

06 April 2007, 20:29	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	what??? just go to trident and press the All Offline button.... poseidon does not work with whdload.

06 April 2007, 20:37	#6
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	Same thing happens if you have a mediator PCI board and not set VoodooINT to "NO" having an TCP/IP stack running can also cause problem with whdload, it's a known fact

06 April 2007, 20:41	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	yes, but for 100% success I only activate PSD when needed

06 April 2007, 20:45	#9
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,853	idealy, you could work out what commands are needed to turn it on/off from the commandline and add it to the whd start/stop scripts, so whd will do the turning on and off for you.

06 April 2007, 20:55	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	psdstack loader has options for shell load/unload.... all is described in the Poseidon help....

07 April 2007, 11:37	#11
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	OK, I'll admit I'm stumped. How do I turn off Poseidon with DOS commands? I want to make some neat executable files that will disable the USB ports before running a game. Running Trident and clicking on Offline is not that time consuming, but it seems like too much data for my wife to remember in order to play BC Kid. Ideally, I want her to be able to go to Start->Games->Action->BC Kid and start playing. She recently completed Skweek and Superfrog and she's begging me for new challenges!

07 April 2007, 13:17	#14
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 42 Posts: 3,222	Cool Keropi, any similar tips for MiamiDx ?

07 April 2007, 13:22	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I don't know... if there is a DOS command to go online/offline u could add it to the whdload.prefs.... I use genesis that comes with 3,9 and I only use tcp to transfer files to the amiga from my pc...

07 April 2007, 13:28	#16
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	For mediator users elbox game me some stuff to use with whdload.prefs We should gather all these commands and add them to www.whdload.de

07 April 2007, 13:49	#17
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	The list would be theoritically endless though as you can execute anything you like when whdload starts/ends.

07 April 2007, 14:22	#19
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	Thanks again Keropi.

26 August 2009, 11:51	#20
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Thanks for this advice , was beginning to wonder what's the prob with WHD...

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