Empire Soccer AGA

CodyJarrett · 01 September 2023, 15:51

Although Empire Soccer 94 was released on the A500 there was a special unreleased AGA version which featured better graphics, team editors an indoor pitch and other improvements.

https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/e...94#screenshots

[ Show youtube player ]

viddi · 01 September 2023, 16:18

Wow, pretty cool!

Looks like an arcade game!

Aardvark · 01 September 2023, 16:38

It moves suspiciously smoothly. Is there a version that us peasants can download?

DanyPPC · 01 September 2023, 16:43

Sounds like a PC game...

lionagony · 01 September 2023, 16:48

That does look great. I was just checking out the longplay of the DOS version and it doesn't have the parallax of the awning which I really like. People really did underestimate AGA, yesterday I bought Reshoot R and that's another one that really shows the power of AGA. Dare I say that parts of it get close to flirting with some PS1 2D games, great job @buzzybee

TCD · 01 September 2023, 16:53

There is also an unreleased SNES version. I guess those two share the same assets.

jotd · 01 September 2023, 17:03

It's hard to believe that it's an amiga game! Too bad it's a football game, but it looks incredible anyway.

If there's a video I suppose that the game is downloadable somewhere?

lionagony · 01 September 2023, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

There is also an unreleased SNES version. I guess those two share the same assets.

Yeah I think you're right. Here is a preview article on the SNES version. They also mention they wanted to put Virocop out for the SNES but that didn't happen either. https://archive.org/details/super-ga...ge/30/mode/2up

Calabazam · 01 September 2023, 18:11

Why has it not been released? The game is from 1994 before World Cup USA, still a good time for an A1200 game.

jotd · 01 September 2023, 18:45

Sometimes they figure that distributing physical copies will cost more if sales are bad, and they preferred to ditch the game altogether.

Or maybe the game was almost done and was missing just a few features (like TFX) and they wanted to complete it... and never happened.

Virocop is way less impressive technically wise BTW, even if it's already good.

TCD · 01 September 2023, 18:55

From MobyGames:

Quote:

Empire Soccer 94 was originally developed for the SNES, with Graftgold signing the deal to develop the game on the expectation of royalties from this. Steve Turner does not know precisely why the SNES version went unreleased, but commented that "we failed to get the expected royalties and felt let down by Empire". When asked about his experiences with Empire in a 2013 interview, he snidely commented "We had a good relationship till we had finished. Then it was time for them to do their bit".

Might be the same reason for the AGA version (or just the fact that Commodore when under a few months before the supposed release).

Calabazam · 01 September 2023, 20:30

Would the AGA version be available somewhere now?

kriz · 01 September 2023, 22:52

Download please

sokolovic · 02 September 2023, 12:29

Yep ! Hope it will be downloadable somewhere ! Very nice and smooth. A Neo Geo touch.
Seems like a 32bit arcade version of Neo Geo Cup 98 on the NG Pocket.

stainy · 02 September 2023, 18:10

Wonder if this was the AGA version the 'The Big end' people mentioned when I was talking to them about TBE..

kremiso · 03 September 2023, 13:18

maybe the gameplay wasn't great, similarly to the ocs version
cool find btw

utri007 · 16 September 2023, 14:10

Will this be available to download ?

7-Zark-7 · 12 October 2023, 17:10

Stumbled across the Twitter thread the other day of possible AGA versions of this, Uridium 2 AGA, & an unreleased Fire & Ice AGA port by Andrew Braybrook!

Time will tell if they're recoverable off the A1200/hard drive, but Graftgold definitely never had much luck at times with publishers!
Albeit, a number of teams all had their ill luck at varying times, eg: Mirrorsoft leaving a few in the lurch etc.

sokolovic · 12 October 2023, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7-Zark-7

Stumbled across the Twitter thread the other day of possible AGA versions of this, Uridium 2 AGA, & an unreleased Fire & Ice AGA port by Andrew Braybrook!

Time will tell if they're recoverable off the A1200/hard drive, but Graftgold definitely never had much luck at times with publishers!
Albeit, a number of teams all had their ill luck at varying times, eg: Mirrorsoft leaving a few in the lurch etc.

Fire and Ice AGA was released on CD32 at least. Now it is perfectly playable on a y A1200 with Whdload (and with original music).
Curious about Uridium 2 AGA thought.

Galahad/FLT · 12 October 2023, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokolovic

Fire and Ice AGA was released on CD32 at least. Now it is perfectly playable on a y A1200 with Whdload (and with original music).
Curious about Uridium 2 AGA thought.

Uridium 2 aga already released by Scoopex this year, the only extra is hard drive installable if Andrew Braybrook releases it otherwise its the same as Scoopex release

01 September 2023, 15:51	#1
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Empire Soccer AGA Although Empire Soccer 94 was released on the A500 there was a special unreleased AGA version which featured better graphics, team editors an indoor pitch and other improvements. https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/e...94#screenshots [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by CodyJarrett; 01 September 2023 at 16:03.

02 September 2023, 12:29	#14
sokolovic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Marseille / France Posts: 1,437	Yep ! Hope it will be downloadable somewhere ! Very nice and smooth. A Neo Geo touch. Seems like a 32bit arcade version of Neo Geo Cup 98 on the NG Pocket. Last edited by sokolovic; 02 September 2023 at 17:40.

03 September 2023, 13:18	#16
kremiso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Italy Posts: 1,901	maybe the gameplay wasn't great, similarly to the ocs version cool find btw Last edited by kremiso; 03 September 2023 at 13:36.

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01 September 2023, 16:18	#2
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Wow, pretty cool! Looks like an arcade game!

01 September 2023, 16:38	#3
Aardvark Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Finland Posts: 635	It moves suspiciously smoothly. Is there a version that us peasants can download?

01 September 2023, 16:43	#4
DanyPPC Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 733	Sounds like a PC game...

01 September 2023, 16:48	#5
lionagony Registered User Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Toronto Posts: 390	That does look great. I was just checking out the longplay of the DOS version and it doesn't have the parallax of the awning which I really like. People really did underestimate AGA, yesterday I bought Reshoot R and that's another one that really shows the power of AGA. Dare I say that parts of it get close to flirting with some PS1 2D games, great job @buzzybee

01 September 2023, 16:53	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	There is also an unreleased SNES version. I guess those two share the same assets.

01 September 2023, 17:03	#7
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,201	It's hard to believe that it's an amiga game! Too bad it's a football game, but it looks incredible anyway. If there's a video I suppose that the game is downloadable somewhere?

01 September 2023, 18:11	#9
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 468	Why has it not been released? The game is from 1994 before World Cup USA, still a good time for an A1200 game.

01 September 2023, 18:45	#10
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,201	Sometimes they figure that distributing physical copies will cost more if sales are bad, and they preferred to ditch the game altogether. Or maybe the game was almost done and was missing just a few features (like TFX) and they wanted to complete it... and never happened. Virocop is way less impressive technically wise BTW, even if it's already good.

01 September 2023, 20:30	#12
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 468	Would the AGA version be available somewhere now?

01 September 2023, 22:52	#13
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,200	Download please

02 September 2023, 18:10	#15
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,712	Wonder if this was the AGA version the 'The Big end' people mentioned when I was talking to them about TBE..

16 September 2023, 14:10	#17
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,654	Will this be available to download ?

12 October 2023, 17:10	#18
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Stumbled across the Twitter thread the other day of possible AGA versions of this, Uridium 2 AGA, & an unreleased Fire & Ice AGA port by Andrew Braybrook! Time will tell if they're recoverable off the A1200/hard drive, but Graftgold definitely never had much luck at times with publishers! Albeit, a number of teams all had their ill luck at varying times, eg: Mirrorsoft leaving a few in the lurch etc.

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