22 February 2023, 01:19 | #1 |
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Soft Loading Kickstart ROM from "startup-sequence"
Is there a reliable Tool for softloading a kickstart ROM similar to relokick or Maprom function of various Accelerators during the startup sequence of the Amiga OS.?
I have seen a few potential tools on Aminet, but most are from late 90s. Thanks |
22 February 2023, 02:26 | #2 |
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MuFastRom if you have a MMU. Can be found on aminet on its own or apart of MMULib also on aminet
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22 February 2023, 08:26 | #3 |
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Which accelerator do you have?
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22 February 2023, 09:01 | #5 |
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Skick
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22 February 2023, 11:10 | #6 |
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Skick should be ok for OS stuff - Obviously you lose 512kb
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22 February 2023, 11:28 | #7 |
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I used to use one all the time around 1990 timeframe (for OS stuff, not games) on my A2000 with 2MB fast ram to softkick to 2.0.
I can't remember what tool it was, although it doesn't seem to fit any of the above - Skick looks most likely, but my A2000 had kick 1.3 rom, and it says 2.0 is needed. |
22 February 2023, 11:43 | #8 |
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Probably MKick
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22 February 2023, 15:27 | #9 |
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Not specific accelerator related. I am trying to somehow reverse engineer the "ApolloBoot OMNI" from the Vampire in order to make it work with a non vampire system.
On a very high level the ApolloBoot script is using 2 vampire specific CLI tools. Tool #1 recognizes what system you have (A500V2, A600V2, A1200V4 etc or UAE) and based on this allows you to Boot the OSs(Vampire Hardware) or build the partitions for UAE. The script won't allow the system to boot from any partition for non Vampire systems. Tool #2 on the other hand loads the Proper Kickstart ROM during the startup-sequence of each OS type and in this way it allows the vampire systems to boot into each OS. I can get the "Script" fooled so that it allows non Vampire systems to boot but none of the OSs boot properly because ApolloBoot is using a customized AROS ROM which doesn't work with any Workbench. For that reason I need to find a way to load the proper Kickstart ROM within the startup-sequence for any Amiga |
22 February 2023, 15:34 | #10 |
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22 February 2023, 15:46 | #11 |
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O yeah and no-one knows how to create them, So you're ok to use the pre made PAT files UpTo 3.1.
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22 February 2023, 16:32 | #12 |
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In general, using LoadModule to load specific modules is the best alternative since it does not have "quirks" or problems with specific boards such as MuMapRom or SKick. So the question should probably be "why do you think it is necesary to load an entire kickstart and not just individual modules"
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27 February 2023, 21:54 | #13 |
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You can create new RTB files to boot with skick, Iāve booted Hyperion ROMs and r37.350 with new RTB files.
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28 February 2023, 18:41 | #14 | |
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RTB files
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Any use? |
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28 February 2023, 18:45 | #15 |
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Interesting maybe the PAT file is when you try and load a 500 Kickstart on a 1200 and it then needs patching or something like that. I know I tried to load Kick 1.3 with Scsi.device on my 1200 and never could.
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28 February 2023, 18:54 | #16 | |
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I've got a recipe for KS1.3 with scsi.device, but I've not tried it on a real Amiga, I have a Kipper2k A508 that I want to test it with. |
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28 February 2023, 19:13 | #17 |
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That should work but if you tried to load it on a A1200 or A600 I don't know, iirc there is a FORCE parameter.
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Sounds like a fun challenge! |
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28 February 2023, 19:48 | #19 |
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Rather you than me
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I am trying to get softkicked scsi modded 1.3 to work on my CD32 and ran into exactly the same problem as Retro1234 described. Well, it would need a custom RTB file. I followed this guide and got a kickstart with md5 8B7754639928AE0DE506D27F32FFBC27 (so far, so good). The kickstart works fine with UAE, and it seems people have success with it when burning it and using on real Amiga's. But I need to be able to softkick it, and it seems impossible... |
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