Getting protracker 2.2a samples from PC to floppy and working

26 May 2013, 16:05

Hey all,

I'm new to the Amigascene and bought an Amiga500 a week ago. It was 10 euro's so I couldn't let it pass.

My idea was to make music with it using protracker. I was kind of lucky when I found an old floppy with Protracker 2.2a on it inside the A500!

I also bought a USB floppydrive and some floppy's.

The problem I'm running into is that I want to put samples on my 'new' floppy's and load them in PT 2.2a but PT 2.2a keeps saying 'Can't find DIR' whenever I try to load the samples.

Anyone knows how to get it to work?

Thanks in advance!

daxb · 26 May 2013, 17:15

Can you read the filestructure from PT2.2a disk? The sample files are listed from your sample disks and the error messages appears after click on a sample?

26 May 2013, 17:23

The error occurs when I try to load the disk. It doesn't show any files at all.

What do you mean by reading the filestructure? If you mean the helpfile, I did read that and it didn't really help. Also if you mean 'are you using the correct sample file extensions or sizes', those are also correct (got them from http://aminet.net/mods/inst, which should be the right format).

s2325 · 26 May 2013, 17:24

I think your disk is still in PC format, ProTracker can not read something like that.

26 May 2013, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

I think your disk is still in PC format, ProTracker can not read something like that.

Is there a way to format them into an Amiga compatible format?

s2325 · 26 May 2013, 17:56

Easiest way is to run ProTracker with WinUAE.

26 May 2013, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

Easiest way is to run ProTracker with WinUAE.

I know, but I like working on original hardware eventhough it's a pain in the ass.

daxb · 27 May 2013, 14:18

So it seems you have "just" a filetransfer problem. You want a OFS (I guess) formated disk with sample files. One solution is to get fat95 (Aminet) on a OFS formated disk that can be used with your A500. Then you can use pc formated disks. You still need to copy the files to a OFS disk for use with PT.

27 May 2013, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

So it seems you have "just" a filetransfer problem. You want a OFS (I guess) formated disk with sample files. One solution is to get fat95 (Aminet) on a OFS formated disk that can be used with your A500. Then you can use pc formated disks. You still need to copy the files to a OFS disk for use with PT.

I do not own a workbench disk, this is a problem right?

Anyway, there is no way to format a 'normal' 1,4mb hd floppydisk into a amiga formatted disk with files on it? (I read something about putting tape on the 'newer' disks on the extra hole?)

Cymru · 27 May 2013, 17:43

Oh Boy!

This will be a long thread. There are several ways to get files to an A500 from a PC. Bearing in mind that some may only work with a later KickStart/WorkBench, It would help if you had a full install of OS 3.1, your PC has a serial and parallel port (a Catweasel MK3 or 4. -- unlikely, but miracles do happen), and a recent copy of the AmigaForever CD or DVD. With a PC parallel port, search for "the fastest, easiest,.. way to transfer" and Greek guy "Ikonsgr" who has a solution for this problem. You can use a PC serial port and the Amiga Forever transfer program, although you need to have the program also running on your A500. With a Clockport adapter you could add a Subway USB to your A500. With a CDROM drive, you could read CDs but you would be looking for a SCSI or IDE solution and a HDD. With a modem, you could connect to the Internet and download the files directly.

"But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well do ya' punk?"

Mrs Beanbag · 28 May 2013, 20:22

some cheap/newer PC disk drives won't even format a 720k disk because they don't have the HD detect switch. They imagined nobody would still want to use a DD disk anymore, so saved a few pennies.

Cymru · 28 May 2013, 23:22

Use the MS-DOS 5.0 format command and format anyway you can. I have two USB FDDs that will format appropriately for what I use, plus a circa 2000 Celeron laptop and an old server with a floppy.

16 June 2013, 17:45

I bought an Advanced Midi Amiga Sampler (A.M.A.S.) which has an audio input for sampling. I just a 3,5mm jack cable between my laptop and Amiga so I can sample everything, works great!

Thanks for all the help people (:

26 May 2013, 16:05	#1
W4LKR Posts: n/a	Getting protracker 2.2a samples from PC to floppy and working Hey all, I'm new to the Amigascene and bought an Amiga500 a week ago. It was 10 euro's so I couldn't let it pass. My idea was to make music with it using protracker. I was kind of lucky when I found an old floppy with Protracker 2.2a on it inside the A500! I also bought a USB floppydrive and some floppy's. The problem I'm running into is that I want to put samples on my 'new' floppy's and load them in PT 2.2a but PT 2.2a keeps saying 'Can't find DIR' whenever I try to load the samples. Anyone knows how to get it to work? Thanks in advance!

27 May 2013, 17:43	#10
Cymru Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dorathea/AT Posts: 376	Getting protracker 2.2a samples from PC to floppy and working Oh Boy! This will be a long thread. There are several ways to get files to an A500 from a PC. Bearing in mind that some may only work with a later KickStart/WorkBench, It would help if you had a full install of OS 3.1, your PC has a serial and parallel port (a Catweasel MK3 or 4. -- unlikely, but miracles do happen), and a recent copy of the AmigaForever CD or DVD. With a PC parallel port, search for "the fastest, easiest,.. way to transfer" and Greek guy "Ikonsgr" who has a solution for this problem. You can use a PC serial port and the Amiga Forever transfer program, although you need to have the program also running on your A500. With a Clockport adapter you could add a Subway USB to your A500. With a CDROM drive, you could read CDs but you would be looking for a SCSI or IDE solution and a HDD. With a modem, you could connect to the Internet and download the files directly. "But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well do ya' punk?"

28 May 2013, 23:22	#12
Cymru Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dorathea/AT Posts: 376	Getting protracker 2.2a samples from PC to floppy and working Use the MS-DOS 5.0 format command and format anyway you can. I have two USB FDDs that will format appropriately for what I use, plus a circa 2000 Celeron laptop and an old server with a floppy.

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26 May 2013, 17:15	#2
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,307	Can you read the filestructure from PT2.2a disk? The sample files are listed from your sample disks and the error messages appears after click on a sample?

26 May 2013, 17:23	#3
W4LKR Posts: n/a	The error occurs when I try to load the disk. It doesn't show any files at all. What do you mean by reading the filestructure? If you mean the helpfile, I did read that and it didn't really help. Also if you mean 'are you using the correct sample file extensions or sizes', those are also correct (got them from http://aminet.net/mods/inst, which should be the right format).

26 May 2013, 17:24	#4
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I think your disk is still in PC format, ProTracker can not read something like that.

26 May 2013, 17:56	#6
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Easiest way is to run ProTracker with WinUAE.

27 May 2013, 14:18	#8
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,307	So it seems you have "just" a filetransfer problem. You want a OFS (I guess) formated disk with sample files. One solution is to get fat95 (Aminet) on a OFS formated disk that can be used with your A500. Then you can use pc formated disks. You still need to copy the files to a OFS disk for use with PT.

28 May 2013, 20:22	#11
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	some cheap/newer PC disk drives won't even format a 720k disk because they don't have the HD detect switch. They imagined nobody would still want to use a DD disk anymore, so saved a few pennies.

16 June 2013, 17:45	#13
W4LKR Posts: n/a	I bought an Advanced Midi Amiga Sampler (A.M.A.S.) which has an audio input for sampling. I just a 3,5mm jack cable between my laptop and Amiga so I can sample everything, works great! Thanks for all the help people (:

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