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Old 05 March 2022, 15:00   #1
rutra80
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Why 120Hz vsync in NTSC?
I have 2 monitors - primary runs @120Hz VRR, secondary is a non-VRR 60Hz.
When I run WinUAE in NTSC mode on secondary monitor with Vsync on, it locks at 120Hz and everything is twice as fast. Why?
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Old 06 March 2022, 11:04   #2
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Did you select 60Hz in WinUAE Display panel? Default selects what driver wants (usually highest) which usually isn't what you wanted.
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Old 06 March 2022, 12:35   #3
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Yes it happens no matter what I choose.
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Old 06 March 2022, 12:50   #4
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Then it is time to check winuaelog.txt (or run winuae with -log). Something is preventing 60Hz mode being selected.
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Old 06 March 2022, 19:16   #5
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Can't see any problems with 60Hz nor anything why it switches to 120:
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FX: 'vs_3_0' -> 'vs_4_0_level_9_3'
FX: 'ps_3_0' -> 'ps_4_0_level_9_3'
FX: 'magfilter' line removed
FX: 'minfilter' -> 'Filter=MIN_MAG_MIP_POINT'
Effect compiler warnings:
warning X4717: Effects deprecated for D3DCompiler_47
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(218,19-53): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(222,20-60): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(218,19-53): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(222,20-60): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them

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Direct3D11: Attempting to load 'C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx'
FX: 'technique' -> 'technique10'
FX: 'technique' -> 'technique10'
FX: 'vs_3_0' -> 'vs_4_0_level_9_3'
FX: 'ps_3_0' -> 'ps_4_0_level_9_3'
FX: 'magfilter' line removed
FX: 'minfilter' -> 'Filter=MIN_MAG_MIP_POINT'
Effect compiler warnings:
warning X4717: Effects deprecated for D3DCompiler_47
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(218,19-53): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(222,20-60): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(218,19-53): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE\plugins\filtershaders\direct3d\CRT-Guest-SM-Hires-SmartRes.fx(222,20-60): warning X3571: pow(f, e) will not work for negative f, use abs(f) or conditionally handle negative values if you expect them

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FX Flags=00000000 Ans=0 Name='ir' Semantic='sourcescale'
FX Flags=00000000 Ans=0 Name='World' Semantic='WORLD'
FX Flags=00000000 Ans=0 Name='View' Semantic='VIEW'
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D3D11 1200*1600 temp texture:0:3
HQ2X texture (1200x1600) (752x484):0
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CPU tracer enabled
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Old 08 March 2022, 09:58   #6
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have you enable by error BlackFrameInsertion option?
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Old 08 March 2022, 16:38   #7
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No.
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Old 08 March 2022, 17:12   #8
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What's the "D=2" option in the
"NTSC mode V=60.0000Hz H=15665.4053Hz (228x262+0) IDX=11 (NTSC) D=2 RTG=0/0" line?

It's not some sort of multiple is it?
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Old 08 March 2022, 17:58   #9
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Quote:
ActiveHeight: 1200 TotalHeight: 1225 VFreq=60028/1000=60.03Hz HFreq=130890000/1780=73.534KHz
Driver reports it being 60Hz mode.

Did you also select matching monitor in Display panel?

Quote:
D=2
Display 2.
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Old 08 March 2022, 20:06   #10
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Did you also select matching monitor in Display panel?
Yes.
Monitor is at 60Hz but WinUAE shows in GUI it runs at 120fps and everything is twice as fast indeed.
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