14 May 2011, 18:11 | #1 |
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Will we ever see power pc cards again?.
Will we ever see the likes of phase 5 power pc cards again?.Or does cost and copyright issues prohibit the case?.
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14 May 2011, 18:26 | #2 |
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Considering we haven't even seen 040 or 060 cards made for 15 odd years, the chances of new PPC cards being made is very low, unfortunately.
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14 May 2011, 19:41 | #3 |
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The gvp 4060 cards are a new batch. The run them last year or the year before. The last I was talking to joe at software hut there may be a possibility if there is enough interest to do noth batch. I think they were seeing hoe the 060 cards sold.
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I'd like to see, would be cool for all of my miggies... time to wake up....
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A new batch based on the original design will probably never happen, but a purely PPC card with 68k emulation might be feasible, similar to the AmiJoe concept. That's assuming that you can still get connectors for the A1200 and A4000 cpu slot.
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PS, are we at the point yet where PPC could be emulated in FPGA?
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Not on cheap enough hardware at a decent speed
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23 May 2011, 00:13 | #9 |
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dont think this will happen only power pc cpus being produced are for wii , xbox 360 xenon and the cell for ps3.
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Plus, most of the industrial chips are weak compared to any desktop CPU that has been used within the last 10 years. They would probably be faster than an old 604e @233MHz, but still light years behind even the notebooks and tablet CPU's of today. No, I don't think we will be seeing any new PPC accelerator cards for Classic Amiga computers ever again. |
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Erm the high end PPC (Power7) kicks most intel desktop CPU's in the arse even though they are 3 years old. Why do you think they are the CPU of choice for servers? They power the top worlds supercomputers. They just cost a fortune. Last edited by alexh; 23 May 2011 at 09:10. |
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23 May 2011, 09:56 | #13 |
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JUGENE was PPC. Still 9th fastest supercomputer despite being based on chips which are more than 5 years old.
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23 May 2011, 12:18 | #14 |
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@alexh,
I thought I was clear enough when I wrote industrial (should have used the word "embedded") SOC, PPC chips were weak? I was not referring to the super-computing chips in that group, because, since they are soooo expensive (as you noted), they are not suitable for the Amiga market. |
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My bad, I thought you were saying there are only industrial PPC chips being developed.
Still these embedded CPU's are probably many times more powerful than a 330MHz PPC 604e. You've got the e5500 PowerPC coming up soon and the A2 both Desktop capable PPC chips. Still I dont think we'll see a PPC in the near future. Only possibility would be for an emulated one, but that is not Toni's interest so probably not. |
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we can modify old PPC cards to go faster.
CyberStorm PPC possible top end speed 450Mhz-500Mhz with a little overclocking. (this is not a 604e). Blizzard PPC posssible 350Mhz-550Mhz.... NOTE: Blizzard card has been pre-tested by me at 350Mhz but this chip is not a 603e project never completed but for sure will restart late this year. both cards for sure will problely need at least a flashrom update. |
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I'd rather pay a grand than use an emulator. Having said that I believe it'll only be a few years before an FPGA solution is available.
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27 May 2011, 14:46 | #20 |
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Why can't somebody just hack an old Apple Powermac Quicksilvers Openfirmware and turn a $50 PPC Mac into an Amiga?
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