Fixing Flashback versions.. Ongoing.. - Page 4

BippyM · 11 April 2006, 12:46

Personally I think a translation is generally a hack so a ht flag would be better (hack translation)

andreas · 11 April 2006, 14:27

Quote:

I've read on the Tosec site that new flags are planned

Nice.
The only thing that keeps me a little bewildered with this project is that game titles MUST include sub-titles at any cost.

What's the big idea?

http://hol.abime.net/4161

Barravento - O Mestre da Capoeira (1993)(Hitek Softworks)(En-Pt).zip

Why the HELL is 'Barravento (1993) ... ' not sufficient in TOSEC?
(HOL may list the sub-title, of course.)

Well, now I do understand why many CD-burning-eager people go nuts when their burning programs freak out with those long file names.
They CAN be shortened and yet keep all required information.

my 2c

Adderly · 11 April 2006, 15:54

Yep, sometimes i can't see the disk numbers or trainer/cracker flags of a game because the filenames are too long to fit on the screen. I dream of some kind of id3tag, like we have for mp3's, but for adf's. You could include coverscans and add the HOL information to it etc...

andreas · 11 April 2006, 16:04

Sub-titles with games are SOOOO unnecessary.

Adderly · 11 April 2006, 16:14

Methinks it's all because of the Tosec mame/roms origin. The naming of other (computer-) games with this filename length inflation issue maybe came later and they couldn't change the established naming conversation to fit the new images properly...

BippyM · 11 April 2006, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adderly

Yep, sometimes i can't see the disk numbers or trainer/cracker flags of a game because the filenames are too long to fit on the screen. I dream of some kind of id3tag, like we have for mp3's, but for adf's. You could include coverscans and add the HOL information to it etc...

Ironic this

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=7263

NOB · 11 April 2006, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Nice.

Well, now I do understand why many CD-burning-eager people go nuts when their burning programs freak out with those long file names.
They CAN be shortened and yet keep all required information.

Leisure Suit Larry 3 - Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals v1.027 (1990)(Sierra)(Disk 4 of 5)[cr ACC - Defjam - CCS][a].zip

BippyM · 11 April 2006, 18:33

join abime IRC #tosec and discuss it realtime properly... I'll keep the IRC chan open

BippyM · 15 May 2006, 03:06

Sigh!!

Another day another version of Flashback in the zone

This one is ENGLISH SALES RELEASE and cracked by Decade

Enjoy

andreas · 15 May 2006, 09:49

Absolutely brilliant bip!

The only "English" versions that I've known of so far are translated FRENCH versions!

BippyM · 15 May 2006, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Absolutely brilliant bip!

The only "English" versions that I've known of so far are translated FRENCH versions!

Welll another one from a cd jrom sent me so thanks to him too

DamienD · 15 May 2006, 17:32

Cool, may have to play test this one soon

demoniac · 15 May 2006, 17:59

Nice. I remember seeing another version on a board months after the Interpol version, but never managed to get it.

jrom · 15 May 2006, 22:36

Keep up the good work guys...

DamienD · 21 May 2006, 19:34

Hey guys,

Today I had some spare time so thought "why not play test the English version bippym and jrom have given us".

Anyway, I've been playing on Easy for about 3 hours now and am up to Level 5. Here's some observations so far:

... Uses a QWERTY keyboard.
... In-game / cutscene text is slightly different to the other "translated" versions I have played (of course the reason for this is that it's not translated from French to English).
... When starting the levels you get 4 shields instead of the 3 that I've encounted on the other "translated" versions.
... The level codes are different (see below).
... On Level 2 when you need to complete jobs / missions, the 4th job / mission (i.e. fix the computer) had weird graphics. We came to the conclusion that this is how it's supposed to be. Well, I can now say that it's definitely a graphics bug as it doesn't occur in this version (see attached screenshots).

This version is wicked, love it

Now for the bad news... On Level 5 (Disk 3) you first pickup the Tele Controller and the Tele Receiver. As soon as you use the Tele Controller a code protection screen appears. Unfortunately this has not been cracked

From memory you should encounter another code protection screen on either Level 6 or Level 7 (Disk 4). I'm sure that this is also not cracked...

It's a real shame as this version has so many pluses. Is there anybody like Galahad, Codetapper, CFOU!, -Rob- or sombody else who can crack this version properly i.e. Disk 3 and Disk 4

Level Codes
Level 1: WIND
Level 2: SPIN
Level 3: KAVA
Level 4: HIRO
Level 5: TEST

DamienD · 21 May 2006, 19:43

As bippym's original upload to The Zone! only has 0.3 Days To Live, I've re-uploaded it again...

Hope this is ok guys

musashi9 · 21 May 2006, 21:24

Check the zone (disk1 only)
please test and give feedback as to the later protections (if any)

Belgarath · 22 May 2006, 00:23

Full English level codes are as follows

English version
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1: 2: 3: 4: 5: 6: 7:

Easy: WIND SPIN KAVA HIRO TEST GOLD WALL
Normal: FIRE BURN EGGS GURT CHIP TREE BOLD
Hard: MINE YOUR NEST LINE LISA MARY MICE

I believe they are the same as the German version.

DamienD · 22 May 2006, 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi9

Check the zone (disk1 only)
please test and give feedback as to the later protections (if any)

Thank you musashi9, much appreciate

However, you say this is Disk 1? One Level 5 it's using Disk 3 and I believe that it's either in Level 6 or 7 (Disk 4) when the protection comes about again. Disk 1 is not asked for what-so-ever... Would these Disks 3 + 4 not need to be cracked instead?

Also, downloaded your file but had an error when trying the extract it (see below)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

Full English level codes are as follows

English version
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1: 2: 3: 4: 5: 6: 7:

Easy: WIND SPIN KAVA HIRO TEST GOLD WALL
Normal: FIRE BURN EGGS GURT CHIP TREE BOLD
Hard: MINE YOUR NEST LINE LISA MARY MICE

I believe they are the same as the German version.

Thank you my friend, noted and much appreciated

musashi9 · 22 May 2006, 04:04

oopps try now

The protection for the first password and the second are on disk1
I've tested the second password check and it seems to work

21 May 2006, 19:34	#75
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hey guys, Today I had some spare time so thought "why not play test the English version bippym and jrom have given us". Anyway, I've been playing on Easy for about 3 hours now and am up to Level 5. Here's some observations so far: ... Uses a QWERTY keyboard. ... In-game / cutscene text is slightly different to the other "translated" versions I have played (of course the reason for this is that it's not translated from French to English). ... When starting the levels you get 4 shields instead of the 3 that I've encounted on the other "translated" versions. ... The level codes are different (see below). ... On Level 2 when you need to complete jobs / missions, the 4th job / mission (i.e. fix the computer) had weird graphics. We came to the conclusion that this is how it's supposed to be. Well, I can now say that it's definitely a graphics bug as it doesn't occur in this version (see attached screenshots). This version is wicked, love it Now for the bad news... On Level 5 (Disk 3) you first pickup the Tele Controller and the Tele Receiver. As soon as you use the Tele Controller a code protection screen appears. Unfortunately this has not been cracked From memory you should encounter another code protection screen on either Level 6 or Level 7 (Disk 4). I'm sure that this is also not cracked... It's a real shame as this version has so many pluses. Is there anybody like Galahad, Codetapper, CFOU!, -Rob- or sombody else who can crack this version properly i.e. Disk 3 and Disk 4 *Level Codes* Level 1: WIND Level 2: SPIN Level 3: KAVA Level 4: HIRO Level 5: TEST Attached Thumbnails

22 May 2006, 00:23	#78
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,515	Full English level codes are as follows English version ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1: 2: 3: 4: 5: 6: 7: Easy: WIND SPIN KAVA HIRO TEST GOLD WALL Normal: FIRE BURN EGGS GURT CHIP TREE BOLD Hard: MINE YOUR NEST LINE LISA MARY MICE I believe they are the same as the German version. Last edited by Belgarath; 22 May 2006 at 00:48.

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11 April 2006, 12:46	#61
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Personally I think a translation is generally a hack so a ht flag would be better (hack translation)

11 April 2006, 15:54	#63
Adderly [Satan^God] Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 701	Yep, sometimes i can't see the disk numbers or trainer/cracker flags of a game because the filenames are too long to fit on the screen. I dream of some kind of id3tag, like we have for mp3's, but for adf's. You could include coverscans and add the HOL information to it etc...

11 April 2006, 16:04	#64
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Sub-titles with games are SOOOO unnecessary.

11 April 2006, 16:14	#65
Adderly [Satan^God] Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 701	Methinks it's all because of the Tosec mame/roms origin. The naming of other (computer-) games with this filename length inflation issue maybe came later and they couldn't change the established naming conversation to fit the new images properly...

11 April 2006, 18:33	#68
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	join abime IRC #tosec and discuss it realtime properly... I'll keep the IRC chan open

15 May 2006, 03:06	#69
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Sigh!! Another day another version of Flashback in the zone This one is ENGLISH SALES RELEASE and cracked by Decade Enjoy

15 May 2006, 09:49	#70
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Absolutely brilliant bip! The only "English" versions that I've known of so far are translated FRENCH versions!

15 May 2006, 17:32	#72
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Cool, may have to play test this one soon

15 May 2006, 17:59	#73
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,696	Nice. I remember seeing another version on a board months after the Interpol version, but never managed to get it.

15 May 2006, 22:36	#74
jrom Wannabe asm coder ;) Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 459	Keep up the good work guys...

21 May 2006, 19:43	#76
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	As bippym's original upload to The Zone! only has 0.3 Days To Live, I've re-uploaded it again... Hope this is ok guys

21 May 2006, 21:24	#77
musashi9 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 178	Check the zone (disk1 only) please test and give feedback as to the later protections (if any)

22 May 2006, 04:04	#80
musashi9 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 178	oopps try now The protection for the first password and the second are on disk1 I've tested the second password check and it seems to work

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